All New Magico A5 Loudspeakers // Biggest "BANG" For Your BUCK On The Market ?!


Some are saying these A5's are Giant Killers ! 
As GOOD as the M Series ?... 
Sound Stage Review coming Soon ! 
 Not connected with Magico in any way
 
https://www.soundstageglobal.com/index.php/blogging-on-audio/201-howard-kneller/904-first-look-and-listen-magicos-new-a5-loudspeaker
 
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@kenjit 

I happen to own Apogee Divas and CS5i's  although extremely modded which have a cast marble baffle. These speakers were $10k in 1999 and would easily be 40K today. There is nothing inexpensive about the way the CS5i is made nor they way Alon is making his. Machining everything is extremely expensive and nobody should refute that. Is it the most cost effective way to produce a speaker? NO WAY!  But it costs what it costs to make it that way. His older designs are insanely expensive to manufacture.  B&W has gone the lighter weight stiffer way and have a very cost effective way to manufacture however for the clients Alon is going after nothing less would do as they want statement bespoke items.
You do not understand the physics behind electrodynamic modeling and excitation. The higher the fundamental frequency of natural resonance that is designed for creates a point where there will never be enough input stimuli to excite it in the amount of mass that a speaker will have.  There is not as much high frequency energy injected into the case as LF energy and there simply is not enough to excite a cabinet at high frequency especially being that the HF drivers have surrounds that basically isolate the cabinet from the dome. Aluminum is about 15x more expensive than MDF so I do not see where you could possibly state such a fallacy. 3/4" MDF 4x8 sheet is $45 where 3/4" 6061 is $745 and the same thickness honeycomb core aluminum is over $1,000. 
I know Alon personally and I have an engineering R&D background. We have worked on some techniques for his speakers and I can tell you this. The materials he is using are very expensive and the techniques cost a lot to implement. I prototyped a honeycomb stressed skin design 20 years ago and it was like listening to an electrostatic. 
We are talking new price which was 10k in 1999 vs the cost to make them today. You are off your rocker if you think they could produce that speaker for 4k today.  There is at least 6K in wholesale raw drivers and caps alone. They are only cheap on the used market and mainly because everyone knows you need a seriously expensive amp to drive them and a HUGE room. Much like the IRS Betas are cheap today vs the cost to manufacture them in 2020. Speakers that are power hungry and need big ass rooms are not in fashion now with the WAF.
" But you could just use concrete which isnt expensive so its still overpriced" 

Concrete is actually a lousy material from a time domain perspective. The goal of lightweight critically damped materials is clean rapid decay with low coloration. There are some implementations of using synthetic casting materials that can be cast with reinforcements to gain strength without excessive mass but the implementation of those and even concrete for that matter is a very expensive process. high precision moulds and formers are expensive to manufacture and many have only a few useable mold / de-mold cycles before they break down.