So you say. Claim. Or posit.
Alert, Warning, and Caution about Modified Components
This information has previously been provided to the group under a previous, pre-existing thread and is beyond dispute, argumentation, or refutation however the thread was deleted because of improper, abusive, antagonistic behavior by one of the participants which while it was a correct, justified, and measured response by the moderators it had the unfortunate, unintended, unnecessary consequence, result, and effect of removing this information that will be of value to some although of course many of the knowledgeable experts here will already know this.
There are some dealers who sell new equipment that they have modified, altered, or customized by some method, fashion, or design and I am not talking hear about professionals who are often degreed engineers who are fully educated, skilled, and qualified to make such alterations to components intended for use in a Music Reproduction System. I am talking about dealers some of which are actually "part time" as can be shown by they're store hours and these retailers, merchandisers, and salesman do not have the prerequisite qualifications to perform this type of work. Without expressing any opinion, judgement, or assessment of these "modifications" I offer to the group these agreed upon details of which those considering such action should be consciuous:
1.) Any modification of an electrical component carries with it a potential hazard of fire and/or electrical shock and as such can be lethal and this risk should be considered against the potential value of any "improvement" promised as a result of the modification.
2.) Any modification is certain to render invalid, void, and unenforceable any manufacturer's guarantee, warrantee, promise, or assurance regarding safety, reliability, and performance of the equipment subjected to the alteration.
3.) Because of as stated in item 2 above, the manufacturer of such modified equipment is certain to decline, refuse, and reject any request to service, repair, or even inspect such a unit that has been altered contrary to or in in conflict or defiance of it's original design.
4.) Because the altered unit is now something unique unto itself and familiar only with the person who did the modification it is likely if not certain that no one will be willing to service or repair the unit other than the modifyer himself which as we know may be fully unqualified to perform any such work.
5.) You should also be cynical, suspicous and doubtful of anyone who asserts, insists, or represents in any way that his modified component is superior in performance, specification, or result from a factory original unit which has been fully tested and verified before even entering into production.
I will add to these facts that those who are unqualified to make such expensive modifications refuse to provide specific information, detail, and explanation of the work that they perform while those who are expert, qualified, and capable to do such work will explain the exact work that they perform.
This thread is limited, restricted, and reserved for discussion of equipment component modification and off topic response will be reported to the appropriate Audiogon authorities for deletion.
There are some dealers who sell new equipment that they have modified, altered, or customized by some method, fashion, or design and I am not talking hear about professionals who are often degreed engineers who are fully educated, skilled, and qualified to make such alterations to components intended for use in a Music Reproduction System. I am talking about dealers some of which are actually "part time" as can be shown by they're store hours and these retailers, merchandisers, and salesman do not have the prerequisite qualifications to perform this type of work. Without expressing any opinion, judgement, or assessment of these "modifications" I offer to the group these agreed upon details of which those considering such action should be consciuous:
1.) Any modification of an electrical component carries with it a potential hazard of fire and/or electrical shock and as such can be lethal and this risk should be considered against the potential value of any "improvement" promised as a result of the modification.
2.) Any modification is certain to render invalid, void, and unenforceable any manufacturer's guarantee, warrantee, promise, or assurance regarding safety, reliability, and performance of the equipment subjected to the alteration.
3.) Because of as stated in item 2 above, the manufacturer of such modified equipment is certain to decline, refuse, and reject any request to service, repair, or even inspect such a unit that has been altered contrary to or in in conflict or defiance of it's original design.
4.) Because the altered unit is now something unique unto itself and familiar only with the person who did the modification it is likely if not certain that no one will be willing to service or repair the unit other than the modifyer himself which as we know may be fully unqualified to perform any such work.
5.) You should also be cynical, suspicous and doubtful of anyone who asserts, insists, or represents in any way that his modified component is superior in performance, specification, or result from a factory original unit which has been fully tested and verified before even entering into production.
I will add to these facts that those who are unqualified to make such expensive modifications refuse to provide specific information, detail, and explanation of the work that they perform while those who are expert, qualified, and capable to do such work will explain the exact work that they perform.
This thread is limited, restricted, and reserved for discussion of equipment component modification and off topic response will be reported to the appropriate Audiogon authorities for deletion.
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I object, dissent and protest the recent, current, and ongoing departure, change, and divergence this thread, subject, and post is, has and might take away from three, triple, and tri-dundant locutions to this new, current and present habit, tendency or mode of poetic, rapthetic or consonantic whatever. We should all support, honor and follow the original, early and first subject, whatever that was, might have or could have been, if we can ever figure, divine or conjure that out, and not let, allow or permit it to go off topic, subject, or you know, whatever. |
Don’t you agree, admit, and concur that you made a mistake, error, and fault millercarbon, millercarbon, millercarbon? Or if not that then possibly misjudged, misread and misinterpreted the situation, circumstance and problem. Or maybe my question, query and interrogative wasn’t clear, concise and direct enough? In any case he hasn’t responded, replied or answered. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised, startled, or shocked if he, she, or it wasn’t thinking enough, already, alright?! |
uberwaltz asks: I only have one question here. The problem, weakness, or flaw in writing, posting, or talking with adjectives, adverbs, and clauses always appearing, following and duplicating in triplets, threes and two plus ones, is its so tiresome, tedious, and boring to read its hard to follow, understand, or interpret whatever it is he was trying, intending, or hoping to tell us, or anyone, or everyone, about. Always assuming, supposing, and hoping there ever was anything there that was worth writing, posting and saying in the first place. Which, I'll grant, proffer, and submit, may be a stretch, long odds, and unlikely. Honestly what makes more sense to me, and you, and everyone else, is that whenever you know, understand, or think of the one best word to use, employ, and write, that you use, employ, or write that one word and that one word ONLY. Don't you agree, clearthink? |
clearthink writes: I know longer do business with the person in question who I will not identify by name here because he has threatened and stalked me here on the forum as has been alerted to the Audiogon authorities and his modifications are something I would never seriously consider, contemplate, or recommend he does not deal with science, truth or "facts" not withstanding his repeated claims, pronouncements, and representations. So let me get this straight. You bought something you knew was modded, it works just fine so you have nothing to complain about on that score, so you're complaining about the guy not being properly qualified (whatever that means) to mod? Or you're complaining about him being a stalker? The guy with no name. Who apparently despite stalking you cannot be bothered to post here. It seems what we have here is a title that pretends to be about modified components, and a post that pretends to be about a deceptive seller, but then it turns out to have nothing to do with either of those things. Now it seems to be a very roundabout way of complaining about being stalked. By someone who for all we know does not even exist. |
clearthink writes: millercarbon "So, is that it? Were you deceived?" So, was there anything wrong with the unit? Are you having any problems with it? Any problems related to the mods? At all? |
I cut my nose on a CD 5 days ago... Well, you knew it was Sharp! |
Component mods are one of the easiest, and certainly most cost-effective, things you can do in all of audio. In most cases its as simple as looking inside, writing down the values printed on the sides of the caps, buying some better ones and soldering them in. My first mod was to replace the diodes in my Aronov with some $8 Hexfreds. For $8 the improvement from a blacker background, more liquid midrange and treble, and reduction in grain and glare, was more like $800. Some people of course are scared to death of electricity. Those people probably should not be modding. At least not until they learn better. Some people of course are frightened of risks of all sorts. People afraid of losing warranty coverage probably should not be modding. At least not until they learn better. Probably also there are people who can't hear the difference well enough to evaluate, or they just for whatever reason think everything should be left stock, the manufacturer knows better, etc. Probably those people should not be modding. At least not until they learn better. However, with understanding all of that, I fail to see why anyone wanting to mod needs anyone else's approval, authority, or certification. Or why anyone buying a modded component has anything to complain about, as long as the fact it has been modded was disclosed up front. So, is that it? Were you deceived? |