Age old discussion I know but MM or MC? Benefits?


Some mighty long discussions on this already here but I need a refresher!
Having decided to upgrage my phono amp to a Dynavector p75 mk3 I am now wondering about my cartridge.
At present I have a Clearaudio Emotion 4 table with a Clearaudio Artist v2 cartridge.
What are main difference between mm and mc that I could expect to actually hear?
And lomc and homc? What is all that about?
Sorry if this has been thrashed to death already but just trying to get a laymans understanding if possible.
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Well, well well indeed.
Hard to say which was the big mover as I made a number of changes at once.
Nottingham Analog Spacedeck cw Shelter 501 mk3 mc cart.
Also built a new rack using 2" maple boards and allthread and moved everything over and took time to tidy up all the wiring.
But...the music, oh the music.
NEVER has vinyl sounded so sweet in my system, so much air and just well soul is best words I can come up with.
Not that I thought so at first as first l.p. on was in through the out door by led zep, must be a poor recording as I thought, umm, soso.

Then I slipped on in the dark by grateful dead....ooh yes please, that hit the spot indeed. Followed with number the brave by wishbone ash and dark side of the moon by Floyd.

Just....heaven. Money very well spent imho.
@asp307 
Yes I have heard many good reports on the Lyra Delos, much as there should be bearing in mind the cost.
Hopefully I will be pretty happy with the new Nottingham table and Shelter cart for a while before I bankrupt myself...lol
@inna 
Thank you for the very usefull information.
The previous owner has included in the sale some original oil and a spare belt which is very nice. But the contact for future reference is helpful.
I will likely try it on maple blocks first as I have quite a few different size blocks around the place.
Well I pulled the trigger and bought the Nottingham Spacedeck cw Spacearm and a nearly new Shelter 501 mk3 mc cartridge. This is apparently a medium voltage cart at 0.5mv and was reportedly a good match on the arm but obviously in my system we will have to see.
Cant wait.....
As always Al, your posts are very inciseful and contain many words of wisdom, as do the vast majority of the post already in this thread and I am grateful for each and every reply and the time and effort that goes into them.
I was of the opinion that a very lomc might not be a good fit and that possibly a medium output as you state or even a homc. Or stick with mm...or try mi....
Yes I have lots of great information now but still unclear of future path.
But that is one that at least is much more informed for sure!
Maybe at my level the present cart is more than good enough....but we all know the itch to try greener pastures.
@inna 
Yes definitely just one cartridge and one table! Of course if you had a table with two arms it would be fairly easy to run 2 different carts......

But as normal I have been perusing eBay and spotted a Nottingham Analog table which I have promised myself to own one day...it never ends...lol.
Btw I am from Nottingham in the UK myself so quite poetic to actually own one!
@rbstehno 
Never even considered a mi cart.
Must read up on them
More puzzles...lol
@maxson 
I did have that thought in the back of my mind, after all if dynavector can't build a cart to match their phono stage its a poor show.
However lots have had good success with other mm and mc carts with the p75.

@inna 
This is the rabbit hole getting wider and deeper.....lol
For the smaller percentage of vinyl listening I do compared to digital I probably would not want to spend much more on another table right now, heck maybe the set up I have right now is more than good enough, but you know exactly how that goes.
Great amps? Hopefully my BAT VK600SE has that covered.....
Paper specs are not always the be all and end all of system synergy as your experience shows.
Part of the reason I am trying to glean as much info as possible before diving headfirst down the rabbit hole again
And these are exactly the real world thoughts I am looking for.
Yes it has my interest mainly because we all feel the need to upgrade and change to try and find that improvement in sq that gives us a feeling of great satisfaction and a job well done....lol.
But also I have "upgraded" many times only to feel I took 3 steps backwards!
Are my table,arm and phono amp up to the task of revealing and sq improvement from a mc cart to begin with.
And what sort of price range and type should I be looking at?
Mostly rock music,modern and classic rock.
Definitely no jazz or classical here
Maybe I should rephrase and clarify.
I am quite happy with the sound of my vinyl but the grass is always greener on the other side so I am curious as to what I am missing if anything.
Baring in mind my components , are mc carts something I should even care about?
Additionally the original post was 9 years old and I am sure there have been some changes in cartridge technology since its inception.
Exactly what I meant, I am not about to even attempt to wade through nearly 13k posts!
Was looking for a simple layman's answer type of deal from real life experience with not so much technical wiz as some just goes right over my head.
Hear to enjoy the music only.
But thank you for the link.