I have heard the Bat vk p-10 se with super pack and it was about the finest phone stage I have ever heard. It had great air, detail clarity, was very easy to listen to, great bass slam. I loved it and wish I had one. It is great. I have also heard the aesthetix and had one for a few weeks. It was ok but not my cup of tea. It had an exaggerated tube "bloom", was not very quiet, you could hear a little tube rush but with the music on it was not noticeable. I really think that they are in two complete different worlds. One qualifier. I have not heard the signature version of the aesthetix and I have not heard the basic version of the BAT. BAT has come out with a new model and I think there are a few places discounting current Bat phono stages.
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