ADD POWR Sorcer X4


Not quite sure why the previous thread was deleted but I would like to continue the conversation on the ADD POWR Sorcer X4.

Looking inside this unit there is 4 large old fashioned transformers a ADD POWR transformer and a couple of circuit boards. The unit is said to emit a pulse via a algorithm that reconfigures the AC to clean up AC garbage in the line. Additionally, it also emits a signal through the air that allows for the cleaning up of stray EMI/RF. At least that is my understanding.
In use, it allows for the music to play with increased definition along with increased width and depth in the soundstage.

I wrote a review.
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/add-pwr-review
https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/hardware-reviews/add-powr-sorcer-x2/
https://add-powr.com/accolades

Your comments are welcome.

ozzy

ozzy
I'm going to get a set of Geoff springs to try under the Sorcer X4. 

ozzy
Sorry tried to edit my last post, but too late.

I noticed that the Sorcer has an even greater effect if it has soft footers underneath. So, I am currently using a thick sponge like material underneath instead of the $$$ Stillpoints Ultra footers.

That's why I thought I would also try Geoff springs.

ozzy
Hi Ozzy

Thanks for posting. I’m interested in what differences Machina Dynamica (Geoff Kait) springs make. Another very good option are perhaps Townshend’s Pods, we are using Max Townshend’s Podiums under the Cube Nenuphar’s speakers with great success.

Even better I believe would be Ingress cup and rollers, a platform of slate and those springs under the slate.

Did you speak to Bill Stierhout ( designer of  the ADD Powr) about how best to install? Any updates on the sound improvements, do things get better over time? Apart from the PPT Omega Mats applied directly to the ADD Powr unit, have you found any other tweaks that are not compatible?

Thanks for your time.


@ozzy

I was wondering since all of those transformers create teenie vibrations, maybe a set of medium DH Labs cones? ....to drain the nasties away. I own a few sets of the Stillpoints Ultra SS and depending upon the weight of the Sorcer, the Ultras may be overkill?
toetapaudio,

Yeah, I think the springs work pretty good, better than my Stillpoints. They are also just the right size to go over the Sorcer footers.
Talking to Bill has just been through email, I believe he has been out of the country. Just got an email from him today.

So far placing a couple of Uptone LPS 1.2 linear power supplies (that powers my ISO Regen and SOtM) on top of the Sorcer did affect the sound quality. I don’t know if the Sorcer was affected or the power supplies. My guess it was the power supplies because the Sorcer has some huge transformers.

ozzy


slaw,

Thanks for posting. The Sorcer probably weighs 45lbs. So the Stillpoints should be within there capability. 
I think something that allows the Sorcer to float, not stabilize, works the best (so far).

ozzy 
@ozzy

I’m a fan of the springs as well. I guess my main point was the word (overkill). Four minis, IMO may work better than three Ultras. The 45lbs is at the very, very low end of the weight limits for the Ultras. I recently bought some DH Labs cones. I'm very impressed.

Whatever works...works. It just seems that something that will drain may be the best alternative.  Good luck!
slaw,

Understood. I have tried some Virbrapods as well. The springs seem to be the best so far.

I have been experimenting with power cords as well.

ozzy
If I were King of Audiophiledom, my first point of order would be to banish Vibrapods from the earth.
BTW, I use 4 Mini's under both of my Hydras that have other layers of isolation/decoupling by springs.
slaw,

Thanks for your input (although kinda rough on those ole' Virbrapods) lol.

I have used many other types of footers. But the Sorcer seems to be different. Floating seems to work the best thus far. IMHO.

ozzy