adante


anyone know why Elac is discontinuing this line?
mattz
They’re an absolute flop, that’s why. 

If they weren’t designed by AJ, they would have never been taken seriously at any point.  There is literally nothing special or good about them, even at half off.  

They are unforgiving speakers. A lot of returns and re-sales within the first few months.

At their price points, they offer nothing new. The KEF R3 is a safer purchase.

AJ should focus on improving his under $500 speakers, as that is his talent and that’s where the market is. 
The KEF R3 simply embarrasses the Adante stand mount in a much smaller package and for $500 less.  
Yeah these got a lot of initial hype then fizzled out fast. Never had a chance to hear them.  KEF R3 came along and is very good!

We sell both the KEF and the Adantes.

The Adantes actually sounded quite good when driven by warmer electronics as their top end was a bit peaky. 

Where  they excelled was at deep punchy bass, excellent dynamics, and created a very big sound stage. The Monitors at $2,500.00 were a lot of speaker for not a lot of money.

The flops were the floor standers which were too tall and not that much better sounding than the monitors. 

In terms of the KEF R3 being way better they are different smoother, less punchy with a more focused sound stage.

Given the right electronics and music the Adantes were quite enjoyable

Their issues were the monitors are huge, they required careful matching, and the floor standers are just huge for their size.

They were hard to sell for the price due to the fact that the Adante monitors were not really bookshelf sized loudspeakers so if you really wanted a monitor to sit on a shelf these were just too large.

Overall a decent line but not a standout more applicable to certain listener.

If anyone is interested we have both the monitors and floor standers priced really cheap.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ
Past 2 weeks i am listing Andante as61, they are absolutely sounds fantastic , vocals, drums and symbols so real, super dynamic.   i am coming from Kef r300 and Kefls50 w ( b)  and both were just ok.  Also with my own cds,  I demoed New dynaudio evoke and kef r series. only Evoke 50 and kef r11 were good in their line. however still i preferred Andante sound signature its just different feels music so real.  i am really trying to understand at what sense they are flop ?  
Raviker, if you referer to our post above we have listed the issues with the line, 

We agree with you that the speakers sounded quite good especially when used with warmer electronics, Naim, Parasound etc.

The issue is the monitors are huge, and can not fit on an actual bookshelf, and the floorstanders were really not that much better than the monitors. 

The real white elephant is shipping with increased tariffs from China a very heavy and bulky product that has the above listed issues and the reason for discontinuing the product makes sense.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ Elac dealers

Adante are a great speaker for vocals. They have the same wide and uniform dispersion as the KEF, but is slightly flatter in response in the range of vocal harmonics (2-8K). Where the KEF is maybe +/- 1db in this range, the Adante is closer to +/- 0.5db.

Due to the soft dome, the dispersion is directional above 8K. This makes the KEFs sound like they have more air, while the Adante sounds much more vocal focused, since this increases the relative volume of the vocal range. Also the KEF R3 is warmer and has about 10db more of bass extension.

For the size the Adante sounds smaller than the R3 (less air/smaller soundstage, less bass extension) which is surprising for a speaker with 65% more internal volume than the R3. I would say the Adante’s biggest problem is that it’s just too big for what you get. It’s also about 25% bigger than the Kef Reference 1 but gives up about 15hz of bass extension.
Vocals are without a doubt the worst part about the Adante.  I laughed out loud at that.  Have you even heard them?  Shouty and glaring.  Absolutely rubbish.  I’ve heard them with MANY amp combinations, in two different houses that all other speakers sound great in.  
Again, if they weren’t designed by a like-able guy that everyone wants to respect and (reviewers) get along with on a social level, they would be complete unknowns.

Dont even get my started on the hilariously bad bass, even with the passive radiator and hidden driver gimmick.  Oh, and the excessively huge cabinet.  
Defend your purchases all you want, but there is a reason they’re already discontinued after such a short amount of time.  
Trash.
Aren’t you 1 man army guy who keeps defending the Paradigm Persona and it’s wacky frequency response against the rest of the forum? lol
Actually Wildfoxinn, we also defend the Personas which have no more of a wacky frequency response vs any other major high end loudspeakers,

We have been looking at many highly lauded loudspeakers and many of them have dipped high frequency responses. So it seems that many audiophiles get activated when the top end of a loudspeaker has some rises at certain frequencies but are totally okay when other loudspeakers are dipped down and therefore have a "recessed or polite" top end. 

Most loudspeakers have either a rising top end or a recessed top end, very few loudspeakers are actually flat.  The real key is system matching. 

We have the Personas and the Adantes and the Kef's on display, as well as ATC and many other loudspeakers.

We don't agree with Contuzzi that the Adantes aren't good loudspeakers yes they do have a bit of a peak in their high end response but with the right warmer electronics they also sound very good.

We have demoed the Adantes vs many of the best $2-2,500.00 monitors and they are in some ways quite remarkable, especially in their deep bass response.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ ATC, Kef, Paradigm, Elac, dealers


At $1500 a pair (the close-out price) I think they are interesting because while I think the R3 is better overrall, it's an extra $500 for a smaller cabinet and better bass extension. It certainly adds a lot of pressure in the $1-2k market.
It adds zero pressure.  You are delusional if you think this will have any effect other than people buying them blind at Music Direct because of the “deal” and then convincing themselves they like them. 
If they are bigger than the average monitor and now going for a discount, then that sounds like a deal. More speaker per $$. Just match them up right as suggested which has to be done in most any case anyhow to get things to sound best.

Also older ears that no longer hear flat to 20khz may tend to like a tipped up top end more so than otherwise.

It’s always shortsighted to focus just on the gear. The person is part of the system that determines the final results and only they know what they hear and like. That’s why no speaker will ever dominate the market alone no matter how good or flat technically it is.


Cage match!  White elephant vs. elephant in the room.
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