On the fence about 1 and 3. Completely agree with 2.
A Suggestion Regarding Removal Of Posts
Three suggestions for providing greater transparency in why certain actions are taken.
When a post is removed from a thread it now reads "Post Removed" followed by the date. I suggest it should include who the poster was and the reason why the post was removed.
A thread could be terminated, but not removed. The moderates should be able to stop any new posts from being added to a thread, but the thread should be available for viewing and archived.
Lastly, give the starter of a thread and only the starter the option of removing posts from that thread because they are "Off Topic". The OP can help by stating right at the start what they consider "Off Topic". The person who posted the "Off Topic" post can be given the option of staring a new thread.
Just a few thoughts with the intent of making Audiogon More Friendly Again!
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Most times I am especially pissed, deeply pissed, if i had bothered to post in the given thread. Sometimes it takes a few hours of my time to put together a decent, well reasoned response to something I perceive to be off balance, or whatnot..and then the post is removed and/or the thread is removed. If removing a post, have the human decency to send the offending post to the person who had their post removed. Yes, there are audio forums which do exactly that. Or, as stated LEAVE THE (given locked) THREAD and don’t delete it. It’s a deeply offensive version of cancel culture and it probably angers most people here, the people who bother to post and share/debate in the given threads. Talk about shooting your own forum in the ass..... |
The sad thing is, when this site had it's update with all the new features, old deleted threads were still accessible for those who participated in them. I found that out and was pleasantly surprised to see that. All one had to do was go to their own posts (under their name) and click on it and the entire thread came up. I used that feature to my advantage when some jerks were acting up and I referenced some items from the deleted post to set things straight. Nothing like being able to quote and reference stupid posts and the timelines involved. My only mistake was mentioning it and it wasn't long before deleted threads were again, off limits. I really wish that that feature was still available as it would go a long way towards keeping the peace. Too many here seem to rely on a censored past. All the best, |
Don’t go political. it’s not a political discussion. As for change or the asking of it. Demanding a given status quo remain/exist is just as violent as asking for change. There is litterally no difference in one position or the other when it comes to the idea of argument. change vs no change is just a set of bookends and one does not necessarily outweigh the other... That...push and pull or even locking down, will always be part of an argument or discussion. It can't possibly be any other way - it has no political orientation. As for deleting a post on your own, sure go ahead. no problemo, here. it’s when moderation removes a post, with out sending it back to the person who might have put considerable effort into putting together a quality argument. |
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i just posted a reply a few minutes ago and my reply was removed and i got a email saying :
" Content may be removed for one or more of these reasons:
Which had none of thee above.
its a shame as this USED to be a really good site years ago, but no so much anymore. |
My suggestion is that Christopher Walken moderate the forums and instead of the offending posts being removed they would remain with digital lines drawn through the words. Chris would then attach a short video (to the post) with him explaining why the post wasn't up to snuff. Being that he's an interesting guy - he might just go for it. Of course - I'm open to other suggestions as well.
DeKay |
Recently a thread was deleted, because of which I don't recall the offending member, but in which another popular member here contributed some lengthy well thoughtful and valueful (as usual) additions, with much time spent the doing. Some good posts are foresaken because of an ignoramus. Disclaimer: some of my friends are ignoramus' so this is not intended as any form of hate speech |
I recommend against that, because if it happens, @onhwy61 will lose his nose obviously first. |
Hmm, I was thinking this is audio; not world peace or world hunger. A hobby unless you're a dealer. If its self-validation that's essential, I'm not sure this site can help. Spirited discussion on the merits of product or approach; why not? Otherwise, we get what we pay for (it's free). Peace, love and rock & roll. |
Ignorance is bliss. I have no idea how/when/why/by whom posts or threads are removed, or can be removed. Only that they sometimes are removed, thereby nullifying whatever value they may have had. Spam, okay, in an abundance of caution. But abuse, violence, profanity are all subjective. Ever hear debate in the House of Commons? Extreme abuse, but redeemed by wit. (Wit is the savior of valuable expression against humorless censors, as in the case of "Bigger, Longer, and Uncut"). Violence? Has anyone seen crosshairs superimposed on a member's name or image? Not I. Profanity? Puh-leeze. Whatever isn't "sacred" is by definition "profane" (secular). Is Agon supposed to be a church or something? If so, I missed the warning. |
If you take your mouse or finger and go to the lower right hand corner of someone's post you will see: 🏁 Report this. This gets the moderators attention, however only gets seen if a contributor uses it, so more likely than not a contributor or a number of contributors start the post removal ball rolling. |
Those who complain about the moderators here are almost invariably those with the least to contribute. The rules of this forum are clearly explained, and you’ll find them in plain English here and here. Here’s part of the guidance you seem to not understand: Act professionally and use common sense |
czarivey: "I recommend against that, because if it happens, @onhwy61 will lose his nose obviously first." Huh? 61 has been here since when I first started posting (the year 2000) and the "A'Gon start dates" linked to many of our monikers are inaccurate (something to do with a system overhaul years ago). Always enjoyed 61's input and from memory he seems to be more even keeled than many, many, many, many, many here (defintely including myself). However, if the OP were to be granted "power" over their thread(s), as 61 suggested, I assume that 50-75% of my posts would not make the grade. So,... this is a BIG NO to me (plus it would enable the misinformation/shill posters). I made a suggestion/solution in regard to the OP's query, as have others. What has been your contribution to this thread, aside from attacking the OP? DeKay |
