Dish and Direct dont even have real HD in the numbers they love to brag about...see for yourself, look at HGTV, TNT, FOODNET and too many more to list and notice on the edges where black bars would be the image is stretched to fill screen and normal in the 4.3 area, its almost fraud to tout so much HD content when its just digital stretch and force justified to screen maybe even upsampled but its enhanced SD (Standard Def) not true HD by a long shot.