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since eddington's initial discovery, the study of light def ... Bryoncunningham
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Returning to the original topic of this thread… after exten ... Bryoncunningham
Hey, same thing happened to me. at first, in part due to al ... Geoffkait
I submit that the strongest evidence here is the mercurial n ... Douglas_schroeder
Only when the stuff was taken entirely outside the house did the sound get back to normal. That's some bad juju.
You are the second person on this thread to report that kind of bad juju. Hmm. My unused ERS is sitting on a shelf in the listening room. Maybe I should burn it. :-)
I submit that the strongest evidence here is the mercurial nature of the experiences with such supposedly wonder-products. That they can be perceived to be efficacious, only later to be eschewed shows they're essentially worthless.
I think there's some truth in that, Douglas. No doubt there are lots of examples of products that are initially impressive but leave something to be desired upon further listening. That may be a consequence of the initial impression being a placebo effect, or a consequence of the subsequent impressions being the result of long-term listening (which, IME, is a more reliable method of evaluating).
In this case, I would speculate that what accounts for the difference between my initial impression of ERS and my later impressions of it may be everything that happened in between, namely, I...
-Added about 15 pounds of internal shielding to the Meridian G68.
-Built new reinforced enclosures for the reclocker and the Sonos.
-Placed a heavy steel plate under the amp.
-Replaced unshielded Cat5 cables with shielded Cat6 cables (my source is computer based).
-Replaced Apple Airport with a simple shielded ethernet switch.
-Replaced the romex for the dedicated line with VH Audio’s cryo’d romex.
-Replaced the outlet for the dedicated line with a Maestro outlet.
-Added about 50 ferrites all over the house, and some in the system.
-Added RFI pigtails to the amp and the preamp.
-Replaced the fuse in the amp with a Hifi Tuning fuse.
-Added grounding pigtails to the negative terminals of the amp.
It was only AFTER all that insanity that I reevaluated ERS and concluded that it was harmful to sound quality. FWIW.
On a slightly different subject...
It's worth pointing out that the last three items on my list -- the RFI pigtails, the Hifi Tuning fuses, and the grounding pigtails -- are most certainly some form of Magic. Actually, I don't know if any of them have any effect whatsoever, so maybe I should call them Black Magic.
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Douglas_schroeder, actually, in my experience, it is uncommo ... Tbg
Perhaps there is a simpler explanation of products which are ... Mrtennis
The thread initially mentioned the subject of stillpoints er ... Mrtennis
Mrtennis it looks like you do believe in magic then! Chadeffect
Hi chadeffect: i did not say what i believe in. i said per ... Mrtennis
mrt - i don't know why you had to read 175 posts to come to ... Bryoncunningham
Hi mrtennis, if that is really true where does that leave s ... Chadeffect
I believe knowledfge comes from the abstract--definitions,an ... Mrtennis
I had another experience with magic yesterday. in fact, it w ... Bryoncunningham
Hi bryon, given your disciplined approach to things, a lot ... Almarg
Bryon, your 'pigtails' have been used by others here in dif ... Nonoise
Hi al, bryon and everyone else. have found this a stimulati ... Corazon
Thanks dave and nonoise for your comments. i appreciate your ... Bryoncunningham
"so i plan on doing the a/b'ing in a friend's system, w ... Geoffkait
Geoff -- yes, i would say that my friend's system is at leas ... Bryoncunningham
You finished my thoughts quite well, actually. imo it can b ... Geoffkait
perception is a poor choice of words. we know what we hear ... Pipedream
hmmmm may be so however our perception is our only tool. w ... Pipedream
Whiole perception maybe our only way of evaluating sound, it ... Mrtennis
I wonder what hayakawa would say about all of this if he wer ... Nonoise
‘magic’ is the word i’ve been using to refer to something wi ... Bryoncunningham
Byron, very well put. hyakawa would have smiled. you succ ... Nonoise
our educated perception is based on our knowledge and pers ... Pipedream
Wwhile not disagreeing with the basic definition, i think th ... Mrtennis
"if one listens to live music every day then his or her ... Geoffkait
Update... i have not forgotten about my promise to a/b (and ... Bryoncunningham
Hi bryon, thanks for the update. my one comment is that in ... Almarg