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I have a couple of lessloss power cords and they are pretty good, but what is this blackbody, has anyone tried it. I love tweaks but even to me this seems a little crazy, what are your thoughts
Kedoades  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

02-18-10
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02-19-10   It looks like an electronic version of brilliant pebbles. if ...   Mingles

02-19-10   Ouch, let's not go there. i started a thread on this a while ...   Rja

03-17-10   Hi, just stumpled upon this thread. i posted some impressio ...   C_breaks

03-17-10   I purchased 6 blackbody units and have been enjoying the res ...   Alanwc

03-17-10   If i hadn't had a positive experience with the lessloss dfpc ...   Bazza

03-17-10   I am presently using only one blackbody. i have it under my ...   Aaapers

03-17-10   I purchased 5 blackbodies, and have had similar experiences ...   Dietcrush

03-17-10   Wow. not many products get such high praise! go figure!   Mapman

03-17-10   In my previous deleted thread most posters declared that the ...   Rja

03-17-10   I have no idea how these things work, but i got 3 of them an ...   Variety

03-17-10   Where can i buy stock in lessloss?   Mapman

03-20-10   I have one blackbody located on the wall behind my amr cd77. ...   Vvw

03-20-10   I treat anything that most paid reviewers write with the gre ...   Geoffkait

03-20-10   Yes, it truly must be a miracle. people hear improvement ye ...   Mapman

03-20-10   surely, you've heard of the cumulative effect?   Tvad

03-20-10   That would seem to be the case here. probably only if the b ...   Mapman

03-21-10   Using only two lessloss blackbody's 1. at first don't try a ...   Rezahabib

03-21-10   "the silence between notes is what was missing. " ...   Mapman

03-21-10   While a certain amount of skepticism is always healthy i wou ...   Rja

03-21-10   I've heard one or two power conditioners (i know we're not d ...   Tvad

03-21-10   Yes, 3 possibilities: 1. they work, positive effect. 2. they ...   Rja

03-21-10   Rja makes a good point about the owners of the blackbody. m ...   Tvad

03-21-10   I wonder if they work for all sound or just sound that comes ...   Mapman

03-21-10   Gosh, i wonder if they cure the mange, too.   Geoffkait

03-21-10   It seems to me that some members that replied to this post d ...   Stani

03-21-10   I don't understand how it works, but i'm pretty sure it is n ...   Mapman

03-22-10   I sent a response to the curious posts which followed my ear ...   Vvw

03-22-10   I don't own a blackbody, but i borrowed one for about 3 week ...   Zozo

03-24-10   Everything in the listening room rings and sings, imparting ...   Khkenny

03-24-10   Khkenny, there is some truth in what you say but i don't th ...   Mapman

03-24-10   Reviews coming on 6moons.   Rja

03-25-10   This thread and the impressions posted are truly interesting ...   Ptmconsulting

03-25-10   I purchased and installed 2 of these wonderful devices and w ...   Burningpanda

03-25-10   "i have ordered 3rd which i shall mount over the listen ...   Mapman

03-25-10   With no sarcasm intended, i have to say that everything abou ...   Soundgasm

03-25-10   Soundgasm, it's good that this thread is fascinating!   Mapman

04-01-10   Can someone explain in summary form why they work? i can und ...   Rhyno

04-03-10   Do these devices plug into power? i.e. are they transmittin ...   Mbhampton

04-07-10   Dear all, my i introduce myself? my name is rainer weber an ...   Rainer_weber

04-07-10   $815 x 7 = $5705 am i alone in thinking that's an awful lo ...   Tvad

04-07-10   Its only about 10% of a $60,000 system, reasonable tweak ter ...   Mapman

04-08-10   Rainer, fantastic looking showroom!, can you describe the de ...   Perrew

04-12-10   I agree - spectacular showroom. just stunning.   Soundgasm

04-13-10   I wonder how they compare with the steinmusic h2?   Husk01

04-14-10   Dear all, thank you for the nice response concerning my sho ...   Rainer_weber

04-23-10   I have not tried less loss's blackbody, but i have owned the ...   Socoaste

05-17-10   I thought i would update my initial impression of the blackb ...   Alanwc

05-18-10   Ok alanwc, tell us about the "tunnelbridge".   Rja

05-18-10   Tunnelbridge appears similar in concept to the powered dbs d ...   Mapman

07-05-10   Having stumbled into this fascinating debate, i am willing t ...   Cwlondon

07-06-10   Cwlondon, good eye. i just went through the posts and verifi ...   Mingles

07-06-10   Further to my point, it seems i overlooked "alanwc" ...   Cwlondon

07-06-10   ok, i'm usually pretty good at comedic analogy, but this one ...   Tvad

07-06-10   tvad perhaps you are too young: http://en.wikipedia.org/w ...   Cwlondon

07-06-10   I'm not too young to remember the bionic woman, but i don't ...   Tvad

07-07-10   Cwlondon, i knew exactly what you were talking about. btw: ...   Rja

07-07-10   A similar phenomena happened a year ago in this forum: ht ...   Mingles

07-17-10: Toymanmark
I only met Louis Motek from Lessloss three days ago @ an audio Friends home along with 3 other guys from our audio club. We also had a reviewer there as well from Stereo Times. We got to listen to the Lessloss signature power cords and the Blackbody. Both of these products worked very well. My review is below mainly about the Blackbody. Lessloss does not deserve the bashing above. Instead they should be commended for paving the way for us to get closer to the sound of live music.

We first put in 6 signature power cords.

1 on the Meridian 861-preamp
1 on the Marantz UD 9004-source
2 on the Vacuum State mono tube amps
2 on the sub portion of the Avantgarde Duo's

This was a very large change. This went from a very hard to listen to system to very smooth and open. But the problem was the only good power cables in the set up were the Virtual Dynamics Master power cables on Source and the Avantgarde subs. All other power cables were just better than stock power cables.

This left little time to spend quality time with the Blackbody. But we put just one Blackbody on the source and immediately there was an obvious change in the sound that everybody could easily hear. The depth in sound stage and ambient information stood out for me. But something was not quite right maybe a little brighter and thinner. I believe that maybe it started to reveal other issues in the system. I do know there is a ton of other equipment in this system with all the automation and theater gear. The dedicated lines are not hooked up yet. Still through all this I heard great potential but the evening ended. I do wish we had more time to figure the issues out. The good news was Louis agreed to bring the Lessloss Blackbody to my home for us to play with the next day.

The next day we had decent time to listen to some music and the Blackbody. My system is tweaked out to the max and is very revealing of any change. First we put 1 Blackbody 4 inches away facing the side of the MBL 1621 Transport. I was not prepared for this change and it was within just the first few seconds of listening. The best way that I could describe the sound was the same if you ever listen to your system late at knight as apposed to the middle of the day. Just cleaner with more sense of space. We then put a second one facing the other side of the MBL 1621 Transport. A bit more of that same quality came through. We then added two more 1 each facing the side of the Mark Levinson No33 mono amps. I had my mind set thinking it was going to get brighter and more detailed. But the sound just filled out more with a more relaxed presentation. What I mean is the quite spots between notes filled in with ambient information and just gave me a better sense of the space the music was recorded in. Next we put two more one on top of each speaker facing down right where the voice coil of the top mid range would be. This was the largest improvement yet, thou this just could have been because it was last. The overall presentation became much more cohesive. The other thing that really stood out was the depth of the sound stage went much deeper than I have ever heard before. The sound was much more 3D. We put a couple more facing the already treated side of the Mark Levinson No33 side of the amps. I noted a little improvement maybe with a little more moving around of these Blackbody boxes i am sure we could have made more improvement . But in my simple system I think six was the magic number. I will eventually get six of these things but business is slow right now. I will probably buy just one at a time as money allows.

This was just as big of a change if not larger than any tweak I have done this far. Then again it could be because it was the last tweak that I did. For me in my audio system the money for the Lessloss Blackbody is well worth the investment. Thank you Louis for pioneering the way of audio.


Toymanmark  (System | Answers | This Thread)


07-23-10   toymanmark, i don't believe anyone is bashing lessloss here ...   Mingles

07-23-10   The whole black body deal gives me the creeps. how many do ...   Mapman

07-27-10   Mingles, i did reread above and you are right there was not ...   Toymanmark

07-27-10   The blackbody is for real. i post very infrequently but you ...   Aaapers

07-28-10   "i post very infrequently." why would anyone wit ...   Cwlondon

07-28-10   "cwlondon",i am afraid i will have to disapoint yo ...   Aaapers

07-29-10   Aaapers i am not disappointed, and if you are a sincere ent ...   Cwlondon

07-31-10   Cwlondon, it is also unfair when you discover a product that ...   Toymanmark

08-01-10   Toymanmark i am not being unfair. if you or anyone else ha ...   Cwlondon

04-06-11   i am the op of this thread, i can't believe so many peopl ...   Kedoades

04-06-11   There seems to be a nearly inverse relationship between the ...   Douglas_schroeder

04-07-11   Nothing new to say on this topic. sorry, no more free publi ...   Mapman

04-09-11   Re "there seems to be a nearly inverse relationship be ...   Cwlondon

04-09-11   At this point, any time an audio manufacturer claims to be r ...   Mcondon

04-11-11   Mcondon, i tend to agree with you about the flimsy nature of ...   Douglas_schroeder

04-17-11   I enjoy very much trying audio tweaks, lets face it, some of ...   Bullot


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