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02-19-10
It looks like an electronic version of brilliant pebbles. if ... Mingles
02-19-10
Ouch, let's not go there. i started a thread on this a while ... Rja
03-17-10
Hi, just stumpled upon this thread. i posted some impressio ... C_breaks
03-17-10
I purchased 6 blackbody units and have been enjoying the res ... Alanwc
03-17-10
If i hadn't had a positive experience with the lessloss dfpc ... Bazza
03-17-10
I am presently using only one blackbody. i have it under my ... Aaapers
03-17-10
I purchased 5 blackbodies, and have had similar experiences ... Dietcrush
03-17-10
Wow. not many products get such high praise! go figure! Mapman
03-17-10
In my previous deleted thread most posters declared that the ... Rja
03-17-10
I have no idea how these things work, but i got 3 of them an ... Variety
03-17-10
Where can i buy stock in lessloss? Mapman
03-20-10
I have one blackbody located on the wall behind my amr cd77. ... Vvw
03-20-10
I treat anything that most paid reviewers write with the gre ... Geoffkait
03-20-10
Yes, it truly must be a miracle. people hear improvement ye ... Mapman
03-20-10
surely, you've heard of the cumulative effect? Tvad
03-20-10
That would seem to be the case here. probably only if the b ... Mapman
03-21-10
Using only two lessloss blackbody's 1. at first don't try a ... Rezahabib
03-21-10
"the silence between notes is what was missing. " ... Mapman
03-21-10
While a certain amount of skepticism is always healthy i wou ... Rja
03-21-10
I've heard one or two power conditioners (i know we're not d ... Tvad
03-21-10
Yes, 3 possibilities: 1. they work, positive effect. 2. they ... Rja
03-21-10
Rja makes a good point about the owners of the blackbody. m ... Tvad
03-21-10
I wonder if they work for all sound or just sound that comes ... Mapman
03-21-10
Gosh, i wonder if they cure the mange, too. Geoffkait
03-21-10
It seems to me that some members that replied to this post d ... Stani
03-21-10
I don't understand how it works, but i'm pretty sure it is n ... Mapman
03-22-10: Vvw
I sent a response to the curious posts which followed my earlier submission of 03.20.10 but it didn't get past the moderator. It may have been a bit challenging and therefore personal but I thought it was civil enough. Perhaps the moderator suspected some sparks would fly. I will make a further point. This is the same old story you hear over and over again on Audiogon. If someone doesn't understand how something works, it becomes a topic of ridicule. Sarcasm becomes the order of the day. The fact that actual users fairly consistently report some sort of benefit with the Blackbody is of no consequence and ignored. Their credibility and collective experience is discounted by implied superiority, even when the critical person/persons concerned have never physically seen or heard the item on topic. Haven't we all heard this before ? It seems to be the rule rather than exception in audio. It is fine to not believe in something. But leave it at that or offer constructive rather than destructive comment. As Stani explained correctly in his last post, Louis Motek at least offers a detailed explanation for his product on his website, for anyone to critique, if they are capable of it. Anyone can say ' I don't believe it works. ' But that's all it is, one more opinion amongst the millions of opinions out there that really don't count for anything. An opinion backed by homework and some logical argument would at least carry more significance and serve some purpose.
I don't believe that every single person that tries the Blackbody will hear the same level of improvement, or perhaps it could go the other way . This holds for any piece of audio gear. In my gear, I was ready to write it off till I placed it behind the CD and away from my weight-sensitive GPA Monaco shelving. Its not that I didn't hear change in all positions tried, its that the change included a skewed frequency response which could have been explained by the considerable mass of the Blackbody on the GPA shelf. On the wall behind the CD player, this ruled this out as a factor. Tvad makes a valid comment about a ' blackness ' between notes a user observed, that one could consider unmusical. My observation ( and that of an audiophile friend who dropped in for a listen ) was that there was an overall greater musical involvement and not the reverse. Relatively speaking, the presentation was more subliminal or more like real music. One distinctly noted the absence of something, not of ambient detail, but of less smudging of the ambient detail. Like Tvad, I have used products in the past that led to a greater ' blackness ' of the background but were actually robbing micro-detail in the process, leading to a less engaging sound. It's all there with the Blackbody, but everything is clearer. I stand by my comment that the benefit will be most noticeable, the more transparent to source your system is.
I have just trialed a beta pair of interconnects that are about to retail at $5000 a pair, that outperformed and replaced the Indras in a fellow audiophiles 'state of the art' system. In my system which tends to a lean presentation, these cables didn't quite work. The perceived value for money factor simply wasn't there, even at half the retail price. The point I am making is that system and system/room interactions are the ultimate determinants for the success of any piece of audio gear. In the real world, there may be interactions with the Blackbody with other resonance control or AC power devices. Louis claims that it works independently of powerline filtration or enhancement. If you take him on his word, it must at least be the case with the Lessloss line of products. If you judge Louis credibility on the basis of performance of his previous offerings, then you need to take his word seriously, or at least offer it some respect. If you look at the gear that some of the posters here are using, you can see there is some serious stuff. There would be a typical history of rejection of some major pieces of kit on the search for the ultimate in hi-fi. The fact that the Blackbody finds a place in many of these systems must be of some significance to an enquiring mind, unless one claims a superior musical ear based on nothing more than strong opinion.
Vvw (Answers | This Thread)
03-22-10
I don't own a blackbody, but i borrowed one for about 3 week ... Zozo
03-24-10
Everything in the listening room rings and sings, imparting ... Khkenny
03-24-10
Khkenny, there is some truth in what you say but i don't th ... Mapman
03-24-10
Reviews coming on 6moons. Rja
03-25-10
This thread and the impressions posted are truly interesting ... Ptmconsulting
03-25-10
I purchased and installed 2 of these wonderful devices and w ... Burningpanda
03-25-10
"i have ordered 3rd which i shall mount over the listen ... Mapman
03-25-10
With no sarcasm intended, i have to say that everything abou ... Soundgasm
03-25-10
Soundgasm, it's good that this thread is fascinating! Mapman
04-01-10
Can someone explain in summary form why they work? i can und ... Rhyno
04-03-10
Do these devices plug into power? i.e. are they transmittin ... Mbhampton
04-07-10
Dear all, my i introduce myself? my name is rainer weber an ... Rainer_weber
04-07-10
$815 x 7 = $5705 am i alone in thinking that's an awful lo ... Tvad
04-07-10
Its only about 10% of a $60,000 system, reasonable tweak ter ... Mapman
04-08-10
Rainer, fantastic looking showroom!, can you describe the de ... Perrew
04-12-10
I agree - spectacular showroom. just stunning. Soundgasm
04-13-10
I wonder how they compare with the steinmusic h2? Husk01
04-14-10
Dear all, thank you for the nice response concerning my sho ... Rainer_weber
04-23-10
I have not tried less loss's blackbody, but i have owned the ... Socoaste
05-17-10
I thought i would update my initial impression of the blackb ... Alanwc
05-18-10
Ok alanwc, tell us about the "tunnelbridge". Rja
05-18-10
Tunnelbridge appears similar in concept to the powered dbs d ... Mapman
07-05-10
Having stumbled into this fascinating debate, i am willing t ... Cwlondon
07-06-10
Cwlondon, good eye. i just went through the posts and verifi ... Mingles
07-06-10
Further to my point, it seems i overlooked "alanwc" ... Cwlondon
07-06-10
ok, i'm usually pretty good at comedic analogy, but this one ... Tvad
07-06-10
tvad perhaps you are too young: http://en.wikipedia.org/w ... Cwlondon
07-06-10
I'm not too young to remember the bionic woman, but i don't ... Tvad
07-07-10
Cwlondon, i knew exactly what you were talking about. btw: ... Rja
07-07-10
A similar phenomena happened a year ago in this forum: ht ... Mingles
07-17-10
I only met louis motek from lessloss three days ago @ an aud ... Toymanmark
07-23-10
toymanmark, i don't believe anyone is bashing lessloss here ... Mingles
07-23-10
The whole black body deal gives me the creeps. how many do ... Mapman
07-27-10
Mingles, i did reread above and you are right there was not ... Toymanmark
07-27-10
The blackbody is for real. i post very infrequently but you ... Aaapers
07-28-10
"i post very infrequently." why would anyone wit ... Cwlondon
07-28-10
"cwlondon",i am afraid i will have to disapoint yo ... Aaapers
07-29-10
Aaapers i am not disappointed, and if you are a sincere ent ... Cwlondon
07-31-10
Cwlondon, it is also unfair when you discover a product that ... Toymanmark
08-01-10
Toymanmark i am not being unfair. if you or anyone else ha ... Cwlondon
04-06-11
i am the op of this thread, i can't believe so many peopl ... Kedoades
04-06-11
There seems to be a nearly inverse relationship between the ... Douglas_schroeder
04-07-11
Nothing new to say on this topic. sorry, no more free publi ... Mapman
04-09-11
Re "there seems to be a nearly inverse relationship be ... Cwlondon
04-09-11
At this point, any time an audio manufacturer claims to be r ... Mcondon
04-11-11
Mcondon, i tend to agree with you about the flimsy nature of ... Douglas_schroeder
04-17-11
I enjoy very much trying audio tweaks, lets face it, some of ... Bullot
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