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05-12-11
Mrtennis, i have given up that quest, nor will i trust most ... Tbg
05-12-11
norm, don't tell me you purchased a speaker just because it ... Albertporter
05-12-11
not a single person on this thread, which is now up to 353 ... Bryoncunningham
05-12-11
What kind of equipment does this straw man own? Albertporter
05-12-11
You can record the sound over the air with a two channel pro ... 6550c
05-12-11
Swiss speakers are the most neutral. Michael02467
05-12-11
Bryoncunningham , you say, "or my post from yesterday.. ... Tbg
05-13-11
I was not addressing you, tbg. bc Bryoncunningham
05-13-11
The question is "how to judge neutrality ?" if ne ... Mrtennis
05-13-11
Hi mike: just a joke but "most neutral" reminds m ... Mrtennis
05-14-11
since... accuracy is a matter of degree. therefore... in ... Bryoncunningham
05-14-11
What you hear with neutral versus colored sound is analogous ... Mapman
05-14-11
Hi byron accuracy is not a matter of degree. something is e ... Mrtennis
05-14-11: Almarg
Mr. T, any measurement instrument ever devised, for the purpose of measuring anything, has (or at least should have) what is commonly referred to as an "accuracy" specification associated with it, notwithstanding the fact that the specification arguably would be better referred to as an "inaccuracy" specification.
A thermometer, for example, may be "accurate" to within +/- 0.5 degrees. A scale may be "accurate" to within +/- 0.1 pounds. A speedometer may be "accurate" to within +/- 2 mph.
05-14-11: Mrtennis
You may be confusing degrees of inaccuracy with degrees of accuracy which is illogical. And from the current thread on accuracy:
05-13-11: Mrtennis
You guys are forgetting about a basic fact. accuracy means perfection.
for example one inch is exactly one inch. in audio, all components have flaws. they are imperfect. therefore accuracy cannot exist .
it has nothing to do with listening. its the fact that all components are designed with flaws. you might be able to find components which produce a sound which provides sufficient resolution , a balanced frequency response, and other attributes that appeal to audiophiles. if a stereo system performs that way , where most recordings sound different and there is no noticeable consistent sonic signature, the condition may be "virtual accuracy", but a stereo system can never be accurate (perfect) since the components that make up the stereo sytem are not accurate. Your comments strike me as drawing a distinction without there being a meaningful difference. Do the facts that nothing is perfect, and nothing is perfectly accurate, negate the value of either striving for ways in which accuracy might be improved, or striving to identify and characterize inaccuracies, and in the process hopefully making possible better informed tradeoffs between accuracy and subjectively pleasing inaccuracies?
And, btw, nothing is perfect, not even in nature. Consider the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. But fundamental to the design processes that underlie just about any engineering achievement are error analyses that address and take into account myriad contributors to inaccuracy.
IMO the fact that perfect accuracy in an audio component is neither achievable nor even precisely definable is not reason to declare inapplicable to audio the goals of striving to reduce inaccuracy/improve accuracy, and/or striving to better characterize the inaccuracy.
I agree with Bryon 100%.
Regards,
-- Al
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05-14-11
this sounded like helpful advice, so i did just that. from ... Bryoncunningham
05-15-11
Lol, bryon - nice one, bringing out bierce! Learsfool
05-15-11
Fwiw, mr t started out talking about 'neutrality' being an a ... Newbee
05-15-11
Here is what i found from the site: merriamwebster.com/dict ... Mrtennis
05-15-11
this issue is way above an english major's pay grade. it is ... Bryoncunningham
05-15-11
Once again i am in complete agreement with bryon, despite th ... Almarg
05-15-11
Bryon, your last post raises an issue i was not expecting. ... Newbee
05-15-11
you missed it? that's strange to me. here's what i found... ... Bryoncunningham
05-15-11
Bryon, fwiw, i've never considered the mere collection of co ... Newbee
05-16-11
your repeated calls for someone to definitively answer the ... Bryoncunningham
05-16-11
The latest part of this thread reminds me of one of my favor ... Learsfool
05-27-11
Truth is truth is a good place to start. i will attempt to ... Orpheus10
05-28-11
Orpheus10, i can only imagine trying to determine the " ... Tbg
04-11-12
Well without being at the recording venue all is moot. the o ... Pipedream
04-11-12
Pipedream is right. i will say that some recordings resembl ... Mapman
04-11-12
Audio is an illusion. any truth, to whatever extent ascerta ... Mapman
04-16-12
Mapman, i know all too well that your stance is just giving ... Tbg
04-16-12
Tbg, i have not given up on anything. in fact, it took a ... Mapman
04-17-12
Mapman, imho your last two posts are the soul of great wisdo ... Newbee
04-18-12
Mapman, i had an experience last night that suggests we have ... Tbg
04-18-12
Tbg, that's a recording i am not familiar with but has appe ... Mapman
04-19-12
Mapman, it is sinatra and basie’s sinatra at the sands [vicy ... Tbg
04-19-12
I have a carefully assembled system but also one that due to ... Jult52
04-19-12
My dog seems to think a lot of what he hears me play is real ... Mapman
04-19-12
Dog reaction is an amusing test of a system's realism. after ... Bryoncunningham
04-19-12
brings to mind the most famous canine audiophile, nipper l ... Almarg
05-17-12
"that led me to the following idea: if, after changing ... Mapman
05-17-12
But we, or our brains are aware of harmonics and even notes ... Tbg
05-17-12
"but we, or our brains are aware of harmonics and eve ... Mapman
05-17-12
"for a split-second i thought someone was knocking on m ... Kijanki
05-17-12
Sound effects of things that you are familiar with in real l ... Mapman
10-31-12
I put out a recent post having not noticed this thread. in a ... Lohanimal
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