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  How do you judge your system's neutrality?

Here’s an answer I’ve been kicking around: Your system is becoming more neutral whenever you change a system element (component, cable, room treatment, etc.) and you get the following results:

(1) Individual pieces of music sound more unique.
(2) Your music collection sounds more diverse.

This theory occurred to me one day when I changed amps and noticed that the timbres of instruments were suddenly more distinct from one another. With the old amp, all instruments seemed to have a common harmonic element (the signature of the amp?!). With the new amp, individual instrument timbres sounded more unique and the range of instrument timbres sounded more diverse. I went on to notice that whole songs (and even whole albums) sounded more unique, and that my music collection, taken as a whole, sounded more diverse.

That led me to the following idea: If, after changing a system element, (1) individual pieces of music sound more unique, and (2) your music collection sounds more diverse, then your system is contributing less of its own signature to the music. And less signature means more neutral.

Thoughts?

P.S. This is only a way of judging the relative neutrality of a system. Judging the absolute neutrality of a system is a philosophical question for another day.

P.P.S. I don’t believe a system’s signature can be reduced to zero. But it doesn’t follow from that that differences in neutrality do not exist.

P.P.P.S. I’m not suggesting that neutrality is the most important goal in building an audio system, but in my experience, the changes that have resulted in greater neutrality (using the standard above) have also been the changes that resulted in more musical enjoyment.
Bryoncunningham  (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

11-05-09
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05-12-11   Mrtennis, i have given up that quest, nor will i trust most ...   Tbg

05-12-11: Albertporter
Mrtennis, I have given up that quest, nor will I trust most who might tell me there is such a speaker.

Norm, don't tell me you purchased a speaker just because it sounds good and you enjoy it?

What in the world is this site coming to...

Albertporter  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


05-12-11   not a single person on this thread, which is now up to 353 ...   Bryoncunningham

05-12-11   What kind of equipment does this straw man own?   Albertporter

05-12-11   You can record the sound over the air with a two channel pro ...   6550c

05-12-11   Swiss speakers are the most neutral.   Michael02467

05-12-11   Bryoncunningham , you say, "or my post from yesterday.. ...   Tbg

05-13-11   I was not addressing you, tbg. bc   Bryoncunningham

05-13-11   The question is "how to judge neutrality ?" if ne ...   Mrtennis

05-13-11   Hi mike: just a joke but "most neutral" reminds m ...   Mrtennis

05-14-11   since... accuracy is a matter of degree. therefore... in ...   Bryoncunningham

05-14-11   What you hear with neutral versus colored sound is analogous ...   Mapman

05-14-11   Hi byron accuracy is not a matter of degree. something is e ...   Mrtennis

05-14-11   Mr. t, any measurement instrument ever devised, for the purp ...   Almarg

05-14-11   this sounded like helpful advice, so i did just that. from ...   Bryoncunningham

05-15-11   Lol, bryon - nice one, bringing out bierce!   Learsfool

05-15-11   Fwiw, mr t started out talking about 'neutrality' being an a ...   Newbee

05-15-11   Here is what i found from the site: merriamwebster.com/dict ...   Mrtennis

05-15-11   this issue is way above an english major's pay grade. it is ...   Bryoncunningham

05-15-11   Once again i am in complete agreement with bryon, despite th ...   Almarg

05-15-11   Bryon, your last post raises an issue i was not expecting. ...   Newbee

05-15-11   you missed it? that's strange to me. here's what i found... ...   Bryoncunningham

05-15-11   Bryon, fwiw, i've never considered the mere collection of co ...   Newbee

05-16-11   your repeated calls for someone to definitively answer the ...   Bryoncunningham

05-16-11   The latest part of this thread reminds me of one of my favor ...   Learsfool

05-27-11   Truth is truth is a good place to start. i will attempt to ...   Orpheus10

05-28-11   Orpheus10, i can only imagine trying to determine the " ...   Tbg

04-11-12   Well without being at the recording venue all is moot. the o ...   Pipedream

04-11-12   Pipedream is right. i will say that some recordings resembl ...   Mapman

04-11-12   Audio is an illusion. any truth, to whatever extent ascerta ...   Mapman

04-16-12   Mapman, i know all too well that your stance is just giving ...   Tbg

04-16-12   Tbg, i have not given up on anything. in fact, it took a ...   Mapman

04-17-12   Mapman, imho your last two posts are the soul of great wisdo ...   Newbee

04-18-12   Mapman, i had an experience last night that suggests we have ...   Tbg

04-18-12   Tbg, that's a recording i am not familiar with but has appe ...   Mapman

04-19-12   Mapman, it is sinatra and basie’s sinatra at the sands [vicy ...   Tbg

04-19-12   I have a carefully assembled system but also one that due to ...   Jult52

04-19-12   My dog seems to think a lot of what he hears me play is real ...   Mapman

04-19-12   Dog reaction is an amusing test of a system's realism. after ...   Bryoncunningham

04-19-12   brings to mind the most famous canine audiophile, nipper l ...   Almarg

05-17-12   "that led me to the following idea: if, after changing ...   Mapman

05-17-12   But we, or our brains are aware of harmonics and even notes ...   Tbg

05-17-12   "but we, or our brains are aware of harmonics and eve ...   Mapman

05-17-12   "for a split-second i thought someone was knocking on m ...   Kijanki

05-17-12   Sound effects of things that you are familiar with in real l ...   Mapman

10-31-12   I put out a recent post having not noticed this thread. in a ...   Lohanimal

06-07-13   The room acoustics, is a least as important as a component. ...   Peterbj

06-07-13   Lohanimal, you said, "one of the real problems of neutr ...   Tbg

06-07-13   Exactly. the goal is to fool your ears into thinking it's re ...   Csontos

06-08-13   Csontos, well it is great to be able to hear stellar perform ...   Tbg

06-08-13   Hey, if you end up replicating the performance, all the bett ...   Csontos


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