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11-05-09
This is correct. a system that makes different recordings so ... Shadorne
11-06-09
Just because i am in a contrary mood tonight, i can't resist ... Learsfool
11-06-09
I don't think it's a silly term when applied in this way. i ... Tholt
11-06-09
This is an excellent topic to throw around byron. for me, it ... Vandermeulen
11-06-09
i think the term defines itself. does a piece add to or sub ... Blindjim
11-06-09
Thanks for the responses so far. one point of clarification. ... Bryoncunningham
11-06-09
Neutrality by definition is 'without difference'. Buconero117
11-06-09
By it's unwillingness to be pulled into conflict while still ... Entrope
11-06-09
"my original post was intended... to operationalize the ... Dgarretson
11-06-09
Since all components are inaccurate, one cannot achieve perf ... Mrtennis
11-06-09
How about thinking of the lower amount of distotion in the s ... Ras422
11-06-09
Fascinating posts, guys, deserving of a more serious respons ... Learsfool
11-06-09
Because concensus will be difficult to achive with many ways ... Vandermeulen
11-06-09
"the strange idea of "neutral" neutrality is ... Dgarretson
11-06-09
Learsfool wrote: "music is not, and never should be &qu ... Bryoncunningham
11-06-09: Cbw723
While this discussion is interesting, I think it is getting a bit off track. If I may presume to reinterpret Bryon's question, I don't think he cares whether the word is "neutrality" or "transparency" or "coloration" or how, exactly, one defines the terms. Rather, if you replace a component in your system there are three possible outcomes: 1) system-induced coloration is increased, 2) system-induced coloration is decreased, or 3) system-induced coloration doesn't change. I think Bryon's question is: How do you tell which outcome you achieved? (Bryon, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)
I think in the real world, Bryon's definition is workable. (There is, obviously, the theoretical possibility of a system that makes instruments and music all sound very different, but is also incredibly, incredibly wrong. But I think we can ignore that possibility in the high-end audio world where we're already within an epsilon of the truth.)
Experience is another good answer. If you know what something really sounds like, you should be able to judge the differences which a fair degree of competence. But that requires a fairly specific kind of experience and a very special recording about which you know a great deal. That's not really practical for most of us. And there's always the possibility that the system works well in one area, and not another.
I don't have a better answer than the OP's, but I'd like to know: if I change a component, I may like the result, but is there a way to know if I'm hearing the music better, or just my system?
Cbw723 (Answers | This Thread)
11-06-09
Imho, a systems resolution, i.e. its ability to resolve and ... Newbee
11-07-09
“if, after changing a system element, (1) individual pieces ... Hamburg
11-07-09
I won't call my system neutral. i'll say it's somewhere in ... Abucktwoeighty
11-07-09
So far, the majority of posters seem to be subjectivists wit ... Bryoncunningham
11-07-09
Nice posts again, guys! vandermeulen, you make my main poin ... Learsfool
11-07-09
Byron, isn't that sort of an oxymoron, an 'objective' audiop ... Newbee
11-07-09
Here is what i have gained from everyone's input: neutralit ... Vandermeulen
11-07-09
Learsfool - excellent post. i don't think we are much closer ... Bryoncunningham
11-07-09
Newbee, there's a lot to be objective about. in get better ... Cbw723
11-07-09
"when you remove a bit of system distortion, different ... Dgarretson
11-07-09
Hi byron - i must make an observation here. you posted that ... Learsfool
11-07-09
Cbw (& byron), i have never taken any exception to the point ... Newbee
11-07-09
Bryoncunningham, i just want to say welcome to audiogon. it' ... Tvad
11-07-09
Learsfool wrote: "you posted that you want to hear as c ... Bryoncunningham
11-07-09
Tvad - thank you for welcoming me. this is, indeed, the firs ... Bryoncunningham
11-07-09
It's clear to me what byroncunningham is using as a baseline ... Tvad
11-07-09
Please explain how flat frequency response is inconsistent w ... Mrtennis
11-07-09
Mrtennis - your are right that flat frequency response is es ... Shadorne
11-08-09
Again, great posts everyone! i have to agree with newbee ov ... Learsfool
11-08-09
It never ceases to tickle me how such ambiguous and subjecti ... Blindjim
11-08-09
Here is one phenomena that i've experienced: preamp in or o ... Audioengr
11-09-09
audioengr you had me worried there for a minute... i thou ... Blindjim
11-12-09
Audioengr - most of recordings have some form of compression ... Kijanki
11-16-09
Kijanki writes: "would "neutral" system sound ... Cbw723
11-16-09
that's a very descriptive analogy. Tvad
11-16-09
"but if the goal is to make a recording sound, as much ... Kijanki
11-17-09
Recently, i had a dilemma that nearly every audiophile faces ... Bryoncunningham
11-17-09
without going into details, the basic engineering design ph ... Shadorne
11-17-09
When you are asked whether you like a particular recording, ... Jult52
11-17-09
Bryon, i don't know why your use of the word 'neutrality' bu ... Newbee
11-17-09
good question. they have the same problem in pro audio. so ... Shadorne
11-17-09
Jult52 wrote: "when you are asked whether you like a pa ... Bryoncunningham
11-18-09
Bryon, you say that 'neutrality is not an all or nothing thi ... Newbee
11-18-09
Newbee wrote: "using the term neutrality as a goal is, ... Bryoncunningham
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