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  I Just Don't Hear It - I wish I did
I am frustrated because I am an audiophile who cannot discern details from so many of the methods praised by other audiophiles. I joke about not having golden ears. That said, I can easily discern and appreciate good soundstage, image, balance, tone, timbre, transparency and even the synergy of a system. I am however unable to hear the improvements that result from, say a piece of Teflon tape or a $5.00 item from the plumbing aisle at Home Depot. Furthermore, I think it is grossly unfair that I must pay in multiples of one hundred, or even one thousand just to gain relatively slight improvements in transparency, detail, timbre soundstage, etc., when other audiophiles can gain the same level of details from a ten dollar tweak. In an effort to sooth my frustration, I tell myself that my fellow audiophiles are experiencing a placebo effect of some sort. Does anyone else struggle to hear….no wait; does anyone else struggle to comprehend how someone else can hear the perceived benefits gained by the inclusion of any number of highly touted tweaks/gimmicks (brass screws, copper couplers, Teflon tape, maple hardwood, racquet balls, etc.) I mean, the claims are that these methods actually result in improved soundstage, image, detail (“blacker backgrounds”), clarity, bass definition, etc.
Am I alone in my frustration here?
2chnlben  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

05-23-09
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05-23-09   I view it quite simply. if i can easily hear it, it is real ...   Narrod

05-23-09   I have to agree, over the years i have come to realize that ...   Theo

05-23-09   You're not alone. sonic changes from tweaks are often subtl ...   Tvad

05-23-09   I hear some, i don't hear others. consider yourself very ver ...   Imin2u

05-23-09   Not alone. i rarely hear differences from the small tweaks y ...   Timrhu

05-23-09   Don't worry some people are more susceptible to the power of ...   Shadorne

05-23-09   shame on you shadorne.   Timrhu

05-24-09   I tend to be very skeptical of the value of many elaborate h ...   Mapman

05-23-09   I think it is important as an audiophile to keep some balanc ...   Zargon

05-24-09   It's a conspiracy, marketing or both. i am with the op -- i ...   Tholt

05-24-09   The only changes that have been significantly noticable in m ...   Cruz123

05-24-09   There are two categories of "tweaks" which based o ...   Mapman

05-24-09   my exact experience -- every word.   Tholt

05-24-09   No doubt some tweaks make a real difference. i can feel the ...   Mumbles

05-24-09: Ngjockey
The way I see it... If a tweak or even a component makes an audible difference than something was either wrong in the first place or afterward. If we agree that no component is ideal, then no system is ideal but an optimized system would be less sensitive to "tweaks".
Ngjockey  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)


05-24-09   A tweak is just a change of small magnitude compared to othe ...   Mapman

05-24-09   Consider this...two autos, an american large sedan and a for ...   Tvad

05-24-09   Marigo mystery feet provided an immediate, highly significan ...   Jimjoyce25

05-24-09   You mentioned maple hardwood. my turntable sounds much bette ...   Dreadhead

05-24-09   i have 3 highend, silver pcs made for me by mel at crystal ...   Mumbles

05-24-09   at $799 for 3, they'd better.   Tholt

05-25-09   And they do. and money-back if they don't work in your syst ...   Jimjoyce25

05-25-09   "and money-back if they don't work in your system." ...   Mapman

05-25-09   In the case of your example with the copper coupler, i hear ...   Tbg

05-25-09   Yes, the price on the marigo feet is definitely an issue, es ...   Jimjoyce25

05-25-09   So, what is the sciene behind the margigo feet that makes th ...   Cruz123

05-25-09   I myself hear the differences more when i remove a tweak fro ...   Hevac1

05-25-09   Look, here's the deal; on so many of these "tweaks" ...   2chnlben

05-25-09   2chnlben, i thought you were opening a discussion about why ...   Tvad

05-25-09   Jimjoyce: the marigo tr/vx footers are the best footers i ha ...   Powder

05-25-09   Cruz: i don't know that anyone besides the inventor really ...   Jimjoyce25

05-25-09   Tvad well said!!! subjectivism has been very very good for m ...   Samhar

05-26-09   and here i thought my sarcasm was pretty blatant; just the ...   2chnlben

05-26-09   2chnlben, sarcasm is often tricky to convey in print. i unde ...   Tvad

05-26-09   Tvad - i appreciate your hopefulness, but as they say...&quo ...   2chnlben

05-26-09   2chnlben, i am sorry that you are experiencing another place ...   Tbg

05-26-09   i am kind of with "two channel ben" on this one. ...   Sounds_real_audio

05-26-09   Actually, i am like sounds_real also on this. i do not sw ...   Mapman

05-26-09   Tbg - that's not the case. i truly want to hear the diffe ...   2chnlben

05-26-09   I completely agree that tweaks reslt in small changes when c ...   Tvad

05-26-09   spot on tvad…well said! yet, there are many who profess to ...   2chnlben

05-26-09   2chlnben, i spend hours to a/b stuff. i guess i have tin ea ...   Shadorne

05-26-09   that goes to my statement that we all have different percep ...   Tvad

05-26-09   Time tempers ebullience, and allows the abused wallet to hea ...   Douglas_schroeder

05-26-09   So many things can change the sonics of a system but, do the ...   Flemke

05-26-09   Not out to insult anyone's intelligence. not out to offend ...   Jimjoyce25

05-27-09   Jimjoyce25, as we used to say, that is damn right of you.   Tbg

05-27-09   Thanks to all. this was just another pointless thread meant ...   2chnlben

05-27-09   2chnlben, as i said earlier, i certainly have tried tweaks t ...   Tbg

05-27-09   People hear differently. some better than others. just as so ...   Tvad


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