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  is audiogon good for the audio industry or bad?
I am not a dealer so my input is only based on my limited actions...but, since I discovered audiogon and became a member and active user, I have raised thousands of dollars by selling equipment that had been stored in my basement because "trade-in values" are so low that I would have rather stored this equipment just in-case I one day needed it. I then re-invested those dollars, plus other dollars and then sold equipment that I was planning on living with and invested those dollars as well to basically upgrade 1/2 my system which I had no imminent plans to do prior to AG. The result is that I have now spent thousands and thousands on equipment over the last 6-months which I would not have done without AG. Absolute Sound drives me into retailers and listening rooms, helps educate me and helps create my wish list, but, AG helps me make it a reality. The result is that I spend far more $$ on equipment...which by the way, drives me to buy absurd amounts of source material through acousticsounds, etc...
Jedhartman  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

03-01-09
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03-01-09   You wrote "absolute sound drives me into retailers and ...   Kurt_tank

03-01-09   You would think any resource that generates interest in a ho ...   Mapman

03-01-09   I personally feel audiogon is the best thing to happen to th ...   Jadem6

03-01-09   Jadem6 is right on. audiogon keeps the pressure on prices, ...   Buconero117

03-01-09   I well remember the audio hobby before audiogon. tons more q ...   Sns

03-01-09   Amen sns,this is definately the golden age.the future looks ...   Usblues

03-01-09   I think that you are stealing the resources of your local de ...   Viridian

03-01-09   Overall, i think jd and sns make some very good points. we ...   Trelja

03-01-09   I am responding to a few folks who thought i was saying that ...   Jedhartman

03-01-09   I vote yep. i liken it to getting music via online download ...   Blindjim

03-01-09   As much as i love audiogon and the internet for providing me ...   Taters

03-01-09   Seems to me anything that gets a customer into a retail shop ...   Scpetscott

03-02-09   Well said scpetscott. i've been to more than a few hi end s ...   Ejlif

03-02-09   Some of the comments on 'need to support the b&m' crowd remi ...   Buconero117

03-02-09   The ability to unload used equipment and upgrade i believe i ...   Jedhartman

03-02-09   lol, if all the b&m stores go by the wayside you will still ...   Jea48

03-02-09: Essentialaudio
Viridian and Jea48 have hit the nail on the head. While it's a free market, if a large percentage of equipment purchases were of used products instead of new, it could be impossible for many high end companies (manufacturers, distributors, and dealers) to survive. It's a self fulfilling prophesy. Buying used is okay, as long as you accept that often there is no warranty, the cosmetic condition most often is less than perfect, the product may have been superseded by a more recent version or model with better performance, and most importantly an audition especially in your own system may not be possible. As a dealer I make every effort to demonstrate current products meaningfully, loaning out equipment to customers for home trial, supporting the products after the sale, giving generous trade-in allowances and fair prices. I may be an exception among retailers, but maybe that's because I was an audiophile for 30 years before becoming a dealer. I may be the antithesis of what Scpetscott describes, where he feels pressured to make snap decisions in a matter of minutes. At the same time most people are not going to use your resources by coming for a demo and then buying online. The dealer who is little more than a box mover is going to suffer the most, I think deservedly so. My clients value the knowledge, advice, and customer service I provide for long term satisfaction. I have traveled long distances to deliver and set up equipment to ensure it performs optimally as expected and will continue to do so. I do my utmost to bring significant value to each and every transaction.

Just as you wouldn't buy a car you don't know about except for pictures and specifications without a test drive, why would you risk doing so with mail order and online retailers for significant audio purchases? The idea of sending something back if you don't like it is bogus, because statistics show a lot of people won't even if they don't like it. I hear that all the time. Likewise, the idea of buying something used with the intent of reselling it for about what you paid if you don't like it is like throwing darts and is a waste of time. I see some people changing their equipment very frequently, buying stuff unheard and unseen, making buying decisions because they read something in a magazine or something online posted by people whose identities and allegiances are unknown. After a while you say what's the point. Life is too short.

No matter where you are, my advice as a longtime consumer is find a retailer who will take the time to explain and demonstrate the equipment that interests you, will let you try it at home, will set up the equipment you purchase in your home, will help you long after the sale, and has prices that are mutually fair. If you do not intend to do business or are considering buying used, be up front with the dealer. I respect people's purchasing decisions and welcome their curiosity regardless but expect to be treated in kind.

Essentialaudio  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)


03-02-09   There are at least two distinct audiophile groups. one is an ...   Jadem6

03-02-09   Sorry if it's already been said, did not read all the replie ...   Roc_doc

03-02-09   I would happily spend my money at essential audio. i just sp ...   Scpetscott

03-02-09   I think its a bit smug to say you basically use stores for d ...   Chadnliz

03-02-09   As far as trade, how can you prove this either way especiall ...   Cyclonicman

03-02-09   For the record i did note op stated he was misread but all t ...   Chadnliz

03-03-09   I no longer visit 'actual' audio stores and audio is more a ...   Sns


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