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12-05-06
The imports that i am familiar with (consonance, cayin) are ... Bkonig
12-05-06
Chinese stuff is cheap because there is no r&d. they simply ... Nrchy
12-05-06
I disagree, and haven't heard the consanance stuff but the c ... Loontoon
12-05-06
Check out the primaluna gear imported by upscale audio. it' ... Pscialli
12-05-06
China is an emerging economic power that still doesn't have ... Fatparrot
12-05-06
Agree with others here support the chinese at your own peril ... Czbbcl
12-05-06
Guys thanks for your feedback. i agree that with any new co ... Tommy
12-05-06
I'm with you. i just don't like the way amps made by adults ... Viridian
12-05-06
With child slave labor making all of the junk products comin ... Hdm
12-05-06
Man, what a load of crap! i could run one of those new hybr ... Plato
12-05-06
Nrchy, fatparrot, czbbcl, is all chinese stuff copies of ot ... Armstrod
12-06-06
Please a little less polictics and a little more feedback pl ... Tommy
12-06-06
Tommy, i purchased a cj amp used here on agon for less than ... Adasilva
12-06-06
A lot of the chinese equipment has been cheapened by the imp ... Trelja
12-06-06
The chinese gear i have heard reminded me of celebrity look- ... Nrchy
12-06-06
How do you "rip off" a tube audio amplifier circui ... Eldartford
12-06-06
Ok we have political discussion about trade issues. can i g ... Tommy
12-06-06
Sorry tommy. the simple answer is "no". mention an ... Hdm
12-07-06
Thank you eldartford for the voice of reason... thank you v ... Zaikesman
12-07-06
It's only a matter of time before the chinese get it right i ... Audiofeil
12-07-06
Eldartford the way to rip off a tube design is not just to f ... Nrchy
12-07-06
The only way the chinese "catch up" is if people i ... Stevecham
12-07-06
Nrchy at this point no one has stated that x amp sounds si ... Tommy
12-07-06
Nrchy...knobs and switch locations have little to do with au ... Eldartford
12-07-06
Eldartford (you never change) my comments clearly and obviou ... Nrchy
12-07-06
Nrchy...you never change. doesn't take much to set you off! ... Eldartford
12-07-06
This is very interesting. can anybody actually name specifi ... Zaikesman
12-07-06: Fatparrot
Certain manufacturers DO own patents [Atma-sphere for one!]
The example of post war Japan cannot be compared to China, which is still a communist country. Dissidents or undesirables get treated rather harshly [go try to evangelize in China...you'll quickly be deported or imprisoned...or WORSE]!
So Mr. Wong is the floor production manager for Beijing Blaster Tube Amps. The daily production quota is 100 amps. You bet your ass that at least 100 amps per day will be produced, because there are probably dozens of people waiting in line for his job. Will all 100 amps pass QC or are several just slapped together to meet the quota? Mr. Liu, the purchasing agent, is informed by his friend or relative that he can obtain a batch of resistors, capacitors, tubes etc. that were rejected by another manufacturer's QC or outright bootlegs for 10% of the normal price. Beijing Blaster is billed for the full price, and Mr. Liu and his partner split their 90% profit. Don't forget as I previously stated, that China is the biggest bootlegging/pirating country in the world, all of which is sanctioned by the Chinese Government.
The corporate structure is very important...direct in-house oversight by USA or EU personnel is essential. Unfortunately, there are legitimate and VERY dedicated Chinese manufacturers who turn out quality equipment at a very reasonable price, but how will you know who they are? Until the Chinese government decides that their reputation for quality as well as honoring intellectual property and patents is more important that selling "stolen" property for a quick and easy profit, you'll just be buying a "pig in a poke".
Think that I'm just blowing smoke? Watch what happens to the international news media during the 2008 Olympics!!!!
Fatparrot (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
12-07-06
Fatparrot, even if mr. wong and his wife were working tog ... Albertporter
12-08-06
Fatparrot, was that supposed to be a reply to my specific qu ... Zaikesman
12-07-06
Albertporter, i guess that i'm dean martin to your jerry lew ... Fatparrot
12-08-06
Why would anyone be concerned that an amplifier assembled in ... Mrtennis
12-08-06
Sorry to digress, but is there a short list of worthwhile ch ... Cwlondon
12-08-06
Quality control in the global economy is vital to success, a ... Eldartford
12-08-06
Zaikesman i saw a number (not sure how many of them exactly) ... Nrchy
12-08-06
Cwlondon: jungson would be a name he should add to his list ... Hdm
12-08-06
Nrchy...lighten up!! Eldartford
12-08-06
Quality control is a separate -- and less important from a g ... Zaikesman
12-09-06
If you buy an amplifier and then are clever enough to recrea ... Mrtennis
12-09-06
Be patient and find a deal on an mv series amp and pv-5 or 1 ... Rx8man
12-09-06
I bought a cheap chinese tube amplifier to toy around with.i ... Ttrhp
12-10-06
Trthp, maybe it will be "recalled" :) Rja
01-26-07
In the final analysis - just buy u.s. designed and made in a ... Ferrari
01-26-07
First off, my entire system is american, not because of some ... Rja
01-26-07
buy what you like, can afford, and enjoy. who really care ... Chadnliz
01-27-07
Back to the thread at hand. i have not heard anyhting tube o ... Ferrari
01-27-07
Although some attribute that quote to pt barnum, it was actu ... Audiofeil
01-27-07
Thanks for the update audiofeil, my reference was p.t. barnu ... Ferrari
02-03-07
Who supports most chinese equipment today, tomorrow, or 35 y ... Nanderson
02-03-07
Isn't gatt the reason we are operating at such an enormous t ... Macrojack
02-04-07
There are 5 "well known" brands of audio gear from ... Mrtennis
02-04-07
History: lets see if these chinese companies are around in t ... Nanderson
02-04-07
My personal feeling is: if you want the sound of a cj, buy a ... Rja
02-05-07
I started attending ces during the early nineties. i have s ... Mrtennis
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