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05-14-10
Today i used wadias own spikes. i did so with and without an ... Inpieces
05-14-10
What is appearant with the wadia and settings. i use algorit ... Inpieces
05-21-10
I started off with some isolation feets. first on the wadia ... Inpieces
05-24-10
This thing regarding isolation/ damping is not to be taken l ... Inpieces
05-29-10: Inpieces
Looking a bit more into damping and isolating Wadia 381 and JRDG C-500.
Damping and isolating seems very critcal and it is likely best to try a few things instead of buying manufacturers "we are better than the rest"!
I have tried:
Solid tech - Disc's of silence.
Basically a base with springs. A screw with a cork surface.
The unit is set for a weight that is making it floating.
As is, if you just touch the unit, it moves.
Set of 4 feets can carry up to 45Kg's.
SSC AS.
A foot with somekind of damping underneath and a kind of cloth at the apparatus side.
Each foot can carry 15kg's.
Set of 4 feets.
Entreq Cat feets.
Mineral loaded with a tunnel inside.
These are blocking vibrations from both ways and they are both damping and isolating.
These are for loads over 20Kg's.
Set of 3 feets.
I also use a granite stone under the amp.
The Solid tech feets is always doing one thing.
Bass become lightweight and mid thin. The top is very open and detailed as never before.
I would only recommend these in system very boomy and compressed.
SSC AS, give you weight and bas (reminds me of a vinyl sonics), but not as extremely open as Solid tech.
These feets work IMO, best if you sort out floor bound or rack born isolations first.
They do work good, even with Solid tech's Disc's of silence carrying the weight of the granite stone.
However, Disc's of silence is beaten by the 4 feets i now use. (Dual cnc cups with rubber tube fixing them, rubber spike resting on self adhessive compound)
Entreq's feets stop all vibrations the other two is not as good at this.
Unit is very good isolated and damped. A smooth/ relaxed and very detail sound. No pronounced monster bass, but very good. It offers perfect balance and IMO, very linear.
As is. I found C-500's best isolation and damping to be in conjunction with the granite stone. The stone is resting at four feets. These feets are CNC milled cups, two and two. They are put together with a rubber tube. Inside the tub is a rubber spike. The stone is resting on the rubber spike.
Between the head of the rubber spike and CNC cups, is another layer of damping compound.
On top of the stone and underneath C-500's original feets, i place SSC AS.
This gives the best balance and linear response.
Bass is very deep and full with great impacy. It does not suffer from bloat. Mid has a nice full and rich tone. The top is smooth and detailed.
Wadia 381 rest at the 3 Cat feets from Entreq. As is, since these are mineral loaded, it is hard to get Wadia totaly in line. So, i set the Solid tech feets Disc's of silence for very low damping. The Solid tech feets does not carry the Wadia, they merely evens Wadia so it is in line.
This gives Wadia a very open and relaxed sound with good punch. The depth and control is really really good. Very rhythmical and complex material is rendered with great PRAT and no bloat, no swollen or wooden bass. Bass is full of weight, impact and nuance, mid is a fine balance of weight, breast tone and detail. The top is open, revealing and smooth.
I detect no typical pronouncings. If so, a very slight sense of weight and body.
I found, it is easy to get isolation/ damping to thin out the sound.
Even so, a very pronounced top or upper mid seems very usual.
Soft feets/ rubber etc, can be nice in the warm sonics. But bass often become un-nuanced and not in control or detail.
The most difficult is to get a deep bass with imapact, control and nuance. Followed by the sense of organic warmth in the mid and top.
This has taken a long time with lots of small changes.
Wadia changes alot with damping/ isolation and different PC's.
The C-500 changes to. Maybe not as much as Wadia but close.
It is very obvious that some of the things here, are probably things people try to solve with interconnects and speakercables. I can say that damping and isolation yields results that in some areas are so big, that it is more obvious than interconnect and or speakercables changes.
My next piece in this system is the MAC - Burly that i will use for Wadia.
I also will try Wireworld Gold Eclipse 6 xlr.
I intened to try "musical interconnets". But i am no so sure, this is just not a wise move. Damping/ islolation proves to me, sonics in this system, will not be done with euphoric chords.
I have high hopes for the 2 expected cables that i await.
First, i will run the Burly in the system.
Next will be the WW GE6.
English is not my main language, so i find at times, words are hard to find.
Sorry for that.
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05-29-10
System edited: please view the photos of feets (isolation/ d ... Inpieces
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System edited: quick update: only cat feets with a slight ... Inpieces
06-10-10
System updated: new sets of cat feets for wadia, slightly l ... Inpieces
06-13-10
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05-02-11
Could i ask what are those cone like things on top of speake ... Luna
05-02-11
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06-09-11
Hi impieces, very interesting report! it perfectly fits to m ... Boso27
06-10-11
Hi boso27, well, the granite is only to add weight to the s ... Inpieces
06-10-11
Hi inpieces, thanks for your kind answer! i try next to use ... Boso27
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No it is not! the conveyors should affect pretty much everyt ... Inpieces
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I have been doing a slight mod for the ribbon. nothing much ... Inpieces
07-12-11
Burn in, is complete at 72 + hours at cc of wadia. i'll let ... Inpieces
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Implementing full bdr to wadia (mk4 set, lm pillows, cones a ... Inpieces
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Still working on a system change towards nearfield. pl 300, ... Inpieces
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