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Apogee hybrid ribbon system
This system is built around the Apogee Centaur Major ribbon speakers. They are capable of painting an incredible image where musicians are distinctly placed in a 3-D space right in front of you. Incredibly small details (fingers drawn over strings, foot tapping, breathing, keys clicking, individual voices from the audience and their location) are plainly discernible. The goal of this system is to deliver the most accurate image possible with as tone that is realistic as possible. This includes soundstaging, detail, depth, tightness of image, and tonal accuracy throughout the frequency range. I want tonal neutrality, with neither a noticeable leanness or warmth.

I got these speakers from the original owner who is a very accommodating and gracious person. These speakers cost $1,500 and were in mint condition. They were made in ~1992. They would cost at least 7 times as much to purchase these speakers if they were made new today.

I have found that my vinyl player is clearly superior to my CD source. Both my analog and digital sources are Stereophile Class B rated (for what that is worth). Both sound very, very nice, but the vinyl unit is clearly the superior performer. I am shocked by the full-textured beauty that comes from my turntable sometimes.

I have heard several other Apogee owners' systems and they all prefer tubes in one way or another over solid state. I don't dislike tubes per se (I think they sound very nice), but I feel that the right solid state amplifier will give me a more accurate reproduction of the music, which is my goal. Tube warmth and fatness sounds nice, but to me it is not necessarily accurate and does not really fit the goals I have for my system. I want transparent solid state amplifiers with a rich tone that resolves the detail and instruments very well in space.

This system plays acoustic music (or music that is recorded and engineered like an acoustic session) extremely well. Poorly engineered, cacophonic rock music and the like doesn't sound good on this system because the poor recording quality becomes evident and it sounds like noise. Don't get me wrong, I love me some AC/DC and Bad Religion, but I usually listen to that kind of music in my car or on a system with a 1970's monster Kenwood KR-9600 receiver and The Advent/1 speakers. I usually listen to jazz, blues and classical on the Apogee system. My musical tastes are varied, however, including country, reggae and ska, rock and roll, rap, R&B, funk, latin, zydeco, bluegrass, etc.

One half of the living room (my listening room, 16' x 23') is set up as the dedicated hi-fi listening area. The Apogees are 4' 5" from the rear wall, 4' 11" apart from each other at the inner edge, and 8' from the listening position. The best listening position is relatively close to the speakers, which lets direct sound waves reach the listener faster and with greater amplitude than reflections from the rear and side walls. A rug was placed directly in front of the speakers. Vibrapods under the components isolate them extraordinarily well from the sharper foot fall vibrations. Bookshelves were placed on the rear wall and on the side of the speakers to reduce some reflections. Nothing is placed on the wall behind the speakers to amplify the three dimensional image produced by rear-firing sound waves from the dipole ribbons combined with the forward-firing waves. Placing the speakers 53" from the rear wall produces the optimal depth-of-field illusion.

Since I bought the base components of this system, I have replaced the ICs and amplifier. I replaced Nordost Red Dawn ICs with 1 Synergistic Research Tesla Accelerator (preamp -> amp) and 2 Gabriel Gold Revelations ICs (sources -> preamp). The GGs provide incredible frequency extension on the top and bottom and a very rich tone, and the SR provides great 3D soundstaging and detail. They seem to work in conjuntion so that the positive qualities of both are accentuated. I'm very happy with them. I replaced my Classe CAP-150 amp with a Parasound HCA-2200 Mk2 Ultra High Current. This amp is a beast. It has an incredible amount of current and bass emphasis which finally makes the C-Major woofers come alive, and its reputation of rolled-off highs seems to complement the Apogee MRT ribbons perfectly, which can be slightly bright. Soundstaging is deeper and just phenomenal now, with incredibly rich tone from bass up to the highest highs. I also replaced the Parasound power cord with a PS Audio Statement power cord. It has a 6 gauge copper conductor and I plug it straight into the wall. This had a very positive effect on the amp, increasing response and tightness in all the frequency ranges and focusing the image slightly. The rest of my components are plugged into a PS Audio Juice Bar (a star-wired power strip) which is again plugged directly into the wall. I'm going to get another PS Audio power cord to run between the Juice Bar and wall outlet when one becomes available. I'm very happy with the sound from this system now. If you are in Austin and want to hear some hybrid Apogees, I'm amenable to an audition, just send me an email.

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Geojap  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

03-10-07
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03-12-07   Very nice system! i love apogees, my system is here also un ...   Florianw

03-24-07   Hi, have you installed the new sr tesla accelarators yet? i ...   Tboooe

04-08-07   Tboooe, i finally got one pair of the tesla accelerator ic ...   Geojap

04-16-07: Gallant_diva
Very nice system, indeed. You may want to know that I own and have owned several Apogees except the Grands. Out of all of my Apogees, I rank the Centaur Majors very highly, even higher than the Diva. These speakers are just awesome. I love their midrange/tweeter so much that I prefer it over the foil-only midrange and tweeter combination of the Apogee Fullrange. Hard to believe, huh? You bet. My current system, which is my ultimate system at any price is the Fullrange ribbon panel combined with the Centaur Major's midrange/tweeter ribbon through a custom enclosure that I designed along with the passive crossover.

I have written in length about the C-Major's awesome ribbon in many forums.

I am not willing to trade my combined speaker with any other speaker at any cost unless someone exchanges it with a speaker that can sell for $50k (in which I will sell the expensive speaker and make my own same speaker again).

One of the secrets of my achieving a great sound is replying on my own ears. Please do not depend on Stereophile ratings. Such ratings (including those by other magazines) will only leave you wondering that better sound exists out there but is out of your reach. That in turn will only increase your itch and eventually you will empty your pocket in exchange for may be even worse sound than what you have.
Enjoy what you have and upgrade only after you have listened to something very extensively and you
prefer it in *your* system.

You can easily bi-amp your Centaur Major speakers, with tube at the top and a powerful SS amp at the bottom. I know these speakers very well. I still have a pair of these, which will stay with me forever.

In my opinion, your speakers are too close to each other. Please place them further apart. Experiment with the distance increasing up to 6 feet between inner edges.

You can take a look at my system at audiogon, even though I have not updated the pictures and description of the combined "Centaur Full-range" that I wrote above.

Happy listening.

Gallant_diva  (Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


04-19-07   Gd, thanks a ton. i appreciate the info to think about and ...   Geojap

04-20-07   Wow. really nice speakers. i have some aurum cantus speake ...   Seowfun

04-21-07   Gd is right :-) and apogee knew it too, thats why they add ...   Florianw

07-22-07   System edited: i changed my ics to gabriel gold revelations ...   Geojap

08-01-07   Geojap: i am glad you liked the parasound hca 2200. your sp ...   Gallant_diva

08-02-07   Hi geojap, that is a lovely room, and system you have there ...   Muralman1

08-03-07   System edited: thanks for all the help from both of you, mur ...   Geojap

08-04-07   Thank you geojap for the compliment. i would say no other $1 ...   Muralman1

08-04-07   Geojap: i am impressed with you, and by that i do not mean ...   Gallant_diva

08-04-07   Muralman: average customer turning to hybrids? heck no. and ...   Gallant_diva

08-04-07   I stand by my statements. geo has heard my scinnies, and tha ...   Muralman1

08-04-07   Geo wants to buy your scinnies? ok, but that is not what i w ...   Gallant_diva

08-04-07   You were declaring that particular kapton backed ribbon as b ...   Muralman1

08-04-07   I think i do aspire to the scintillas eventually, but realis ...   Geojap

08-04-07   Now i want to erase my last entry. ;) you can make your own ...   Muralman1

08-04-07   That is right :) erase it please :) the half of c-major is ...   Gallant_diva

08-04-07   That is correct, muralman. i think the kapton-back multi-tra ...   Gallant_diva

08-04-07   I was referring to the sale enticement, gd. everything else ...   Muralman1

08-04-07   I was refering to my own systems, not yours. you have not he ...   Gallant_diva

08-04-07   The h20 is an amp that needs peculiar systems to work it's m ...   Muralman1

08-05-07   System edited: i updated the pics with current ones showing ...   Geojap

08-05-07   I just noticed your left speaker back fires on a window. go ...   Muralman1

08-05-07   This will make a big difference. i once placed my majors agi ...   Gallant_diva

08-05-07   I totally understand. i wrestled with that window for a whi ...   Geojap

08-05-07   That should have been: "...detail are pretty well focus ...   Geojap


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