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10-17-08
Why not donate them to the salvation army or a similar organ ... Detlof
10-17-08
Legally you cannot sell your cds once you rip them if you re ... Rlwainwright
10-17-08
Legally, in the extremely unlikely event a record company ca ... Satkinsn
10-17-08
So, really, you shouldn't even give them away if you've made ... Drubin
10-17-08
You could just send them to me dan......i won't tell anyone. ... Jmcgrogan2
10-17-08
absolutley not. this is a criminal act. on one hand sharing ... Shadorne
10-17-08
Wasn't thinking of us copyright laws in my post. should have ... Detlof
10-17-08
Is it legal to lend my cd to strangers? recently librarie ... Kijanki
10-17-08
Shadorne, if i ever doubted that i liked your opinions and p ... Fmpnd
10-17-08
Excellent post frank, thanks for the rant! Photon46
10-17-08
Frank, now that you've had your rant on ethics, i'm more co ... Jmcgrogan2
10-17-08
In my last post, the story about george lefcoe is a public s ... Fmpnd
10-17-08
Frank - i love the story and will send you a ham for it unle ... Kijanki
10-17-08
Jmcgrogan2 according to j paul getty, the meek will indee ... Uru975
10-17-08
Hey john, don't even get me started on government ethics (n ... Fmpnd
10-17-08
Frank - maybe you, being a layewr, could help me with this: ... Kijanki
10-17-08
frank, while i do admire you ideology, i do also feel, fro ... Jmcgrogan2
10-17-08
conversely, is breaking the law always unethical? several e ... Timrhu
10-17-08: Fmpnd
John,
I am definitely NOT an unadulterated optimist or idealist. However, if I choose to act ethically that doesn't mean I am an idealist. I work as in-house counsel having left private practice because I saw SO much unethical behavior. But if I then use that experience as a justification to act unethically where does it end? I have to live with myself. I will continue to live by ethical standards and hope (but not necessarily expect) that others (certainly not all or even a majority) will respond in a like manner. NO, I am not advocating being a gullible doormat or easy prey for criminals or even people trying to take unfair advantage, just doing the next right thing.
John, I too have witnessed the same disparity you have with many upper level execs. However, if we DO respond with outrage and we DO prosecute high profile execs who act like Dennis Kozlowski, Ken Lay, Bernie Ebbers (and I HOPE we prosecute the likes of Franklin Raines and James Johnson), then we begin to provide the only disincentive and deterrent that such greedy unethical jerks can relate to - the loss of their personal liberty!
Trust me John, I can EASILY get jaded and cynical with all the crime and fraud I see on a daily basis - but responding by becoming what I abhor is not only NOT the answer for me, I couldn't live with myself if I did - and YES, it might make me feel better initially but, since I have a conscience, that initial feeling would eventually be replaced by guilt and regret (and thankfully so since my experience is that the worst criminals have NO conscience).
Your last question is a good one: First, compliance with the LAW should be the MINIMUM standard of behavior - ethics is a higher standard. Stated alternatively, the law prescribes what we MUST do, ethics suggest what we SHOULD do! Thus, MOST of the time, if something is illegal it is necessarily unethical because ethics is a higher standard. However, on certain rarer occasions, JUST because something is LEGAL does not mean that disobeying the law is unethical - think Nazi Germany and apartheid. In these cases, the law allowed horrific behavior so disobeying the law in those cases was actually the ethical thing to do.
John, it does get difficult to continue to live by ethical tenets when you see so many people who do not apparently getting ahead - but I also DO see cases where justice DOES prevail and it does give me a modicum of hope and confirms that doing the next right thing isn't a naive way of life.
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10-17-08
Kijanki, lol!! can you send me a kosher ham? '-) on seco ... Fmpnd
10-17-08
Frank- great posts. i really enjoyed reading your thoughts o ... Danlib1
10-17-08
Tell me, how do all you supremely ethical people rationalize ... Tomcy6
10-17-08
Frank thank you - i was mixing fair use with unauthorized ... Kijanki
10-17-08
Tomcy6, personally, while i do agree that compassion and co ... Fmpnd
10-17-08
Tomcy6, it is a nice point but the truth of the matte ... Uru975
10-17-08
Poverty is a really bad thing and people shouldn't do it! s ... Kijanki
10-18-08
Well i didn't think i would start a big discussion but i do ... Shadorne
10-18-08
Frank, thanks for your well written reply. overall, i tend t ... Jmcgrogan2
10-18-08
Yes my tone was sarcastic. yes, i own a computer, stereo, c ... Tomcy6
10-18-08
Kijanki, ethical relativism is still equivocating(s ... Uru975
10-18-08
Uru975 - agree. nothing can excuse unethical behavior but i ... Kijanki
10-18-08
A couple of responses to a couple of points made. on the ar ... Satkinsn
10-18-08
Scott - even if only one person reads book from library it l ... Kijanki
10-18-08
"scott - even if only one person reads book from librar ... Satkinsn
10-18-08
Great discussion. i am persuaded that i should box up the r ... Drubin
10-18-08
Drubin - very often used cds sold by amazon parties are bran ... Kijanki
10-19-08
there is a difference though. if you own the original media ... Shadorne
10-20-08
What a fascinating discourse! to comment on the original qu ... Carl109
10-20-08
"i must admit that i have ripped cd's borrowed from fri ... Satkinsn
10-20-08
Ok, so some of you have taken the high road and never, never ... Puerto
10-21-08
Again, it's not a big deal in the scheme of things. but tha ... Satkinsn
07-05-10
Let me give this thread a bump. the topic must surely be he ... Drubin
07-05-10
Thanks,now i'm stressed out to the max worrying about if i'm ... Tpreaves
07-06-10
Drubin, thanks for your bump on this thread. i've enjoyed t ... Pgawan2b
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