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  Up to the Minute: Streaming Bits to Audiophile DAC
I have some unanswered questions from another thread, and also some new ones despite searching the archives. So I hope this thread might be a good place for all of us who are interested in state of the art audio quality from hard disk drive based files.

Kublakhan in another thread suggested using the Sweetwater Creation Stations as hardware for a PC based audio solution and so far this gear looks pretty good to me.

My questions, however, arise from the fact that there may be some disconnect between the conventions for "pro audio" and "audiophile" audio.

So as of this writing, can anyone please explain:

Why does every pro audio person seem confused when I tell them I want to use an external DAC?

What is the BEST way to extract bit for bit data from a hard drive, to export to an audiophile DAC?

Why oh why do expensive $$$ music or media servers, which are supposedly configured to optimize audio use, nonetheless require some sort of cheapo "interface" to stream the data into an audiophile DAC?

Why on earth would I want to buy an audiophile "sound card", which I presume (in addition to an "interface") also has its own DAC?

Given the options which are available for "sound card" and/or "interface" type devices, what is the BEST way to tap the bitstream and/or maximize performance of the audiophile DAC? Optical? TOSLINK? Spdif?

Given the choices I might have for the "interface" between the computer and the DAC, what is the BEST way to minimized "jitter" or other audiophile nasties? Or is that phenomenon more of a downstream issue AFTER the bitstream hits the DAC?

There is a lot of great information in the other threads about ripping, tagging, Foobar vs Itunes and a million other complications of hard drive based audio.

But for now, I would really appreciate just some basic, conclusive opinions on the best way to get bits off the hard drive and safely on their way to my speakers from an audiophile DAC.

Please advise.

THANK YOU.
Cwlondon  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

06-05-06
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06-05-06   Good questions. one persons opinion. from the top: pro audi ...   Ckorody

06-06-06   From my fairly limited experience, i agree ckorody's thought ...   Mrmb

06-06-06   The best digital connectivity solutions are (best to worst): ...   Audioengr

09-17-06   Now that a few more months have passed.... could anyone ple ...   Cwlondon

10-09-06   Have you considered an evaluation board dac? crystal semi an ...   Kpavey

10-09-06   Have you considered an evaluation board dac? crystal semi an ...   Kpavey

10-10-06   Kpavey wrote: "then build up a usb to i2s convertor - s ...   Audioengr

10-11-06   Jitter is dependant on the last out device to the dac. how t ...   Racerxnet

10-14-06   Mak finally, someone is making a lot of sense - thank you. ...   Cwlondon

10-14-06   Racerxnet wrote: "if you are concerned about noise from ...   Audioengr

10-18-06   Cwlondon, i never looked into using a usb device or any oth ...   Racerxnet

10-18-06   "this goes to the digital lens which eliminates all jit ...   Audioengr

10-18-06   quit your whining and show some proof that the jitter is st ...   Racerxnet

10-18-06   Racerxnet what "measurements" do you take? the s ...   Jdubs

10-19-06   Pricey like hell but the zanden dac uses is2 if i recall cor ...   Henryhk

10-22-06   Well the increasingly heated debate here suggest to me that ...   Cwlondon

10-22-06   Well the increasingly heated debate here suggest to me that ...   Cwlondon

10-24-06   As to why the industry is not responding - now there is a mi ...   Ckorody

10-24-06   I put up a long post answering this, but it seems to have di ...   Audioengr

10-24-06   Cokorody and steve n thanks for the observations. now wher ...   Cwlondon

10-24-06   Best execution. well, i'm of course biased because i build ...   Audioengr

11-23-06   Can anyone please give a quick, up to the minute update on s ...   Cwlondon

11-24-06   I'll give it a shot. here is what i'm doing, and by no means ...   Mikeyla

11-24-06   I'll give it a shot too: 1) rip my cds to wav files on the h ...   Audioengr

11-24-06   "wireless "wi-fi" does not support anything o ...   Kana813

11-25-06   Kana813 - are you certain that the transporter does 24/96 wi ...   Audioengr

11-25-06   "are you certain that the transporter does 24/96 wirele ...   Kana813

11-25-06   If this is true, sounds like a good one to mod. steve n.   Audioengr

11-26-06   check here for the digital outputs and inputs. ...   Jamscience

11-26-06   Fun thread. anyone want to bite on how you are doing this w ...   Unclejeff

11-26-06   Jamscience - yes i read all of this. does not specify wheth ...   Audioengr

11-26-06   Unclejeff - the term streaming also refers to what the compu ...   Audioengr

11-27-06   "if this is true, sounds like a good one to mod." ...   Kana813

11-27-06   Kana813 - when it comes to mods, i have very little competit ...   Audioengr

11-27-06   Steve n- i've never heard your work, but i'll put my money o ...   Kana813

11-27-06   I want to do this with my own dac. need help. please cont ...   Cwlondon

11-27-06   If you want to use your own stock dac, then the best solutio ...   Audioengr

11-27-06   Kana813 - you can spend your own money any way you want, it' ...   Audioengr

11-27-06   "btw, are there any reviews of the maui mods?" st ...   Kana813

11-27-06   steve n. this answer from christopher owens at ...   Jamscience

11-30-06: Mikeyla
I wanted to post a quick update. I'm sending the WiFi-OffRamp to Steve for a minor mod and had to setup the Airport Express / Monarchy DIP as a transport. This gave me a chance to perform a little a/b comparison.

The WiFi-OffRamp definitely sounded better. I'm not familiar with all the audiophile terms, but there is definitely a notable difference, better bass, instrument separation and sound stage.

Mikeyla  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)


12-04-06   The sims people are having an open house this friday which w ...   Unclejeff

12-05-06   belkin announced today the cable-free usb hub (f5 ...   Jamscience

12-05-06   For those still curious... about how a music lover goes all ...   Earthpulse

12-05-06   "with word-clock, (and the addition of a master-clock a ...   Audioengr

03-03-07   Http://cachepe.zzounds.com/media/quality,85/brand,zzounds/uc ...   Cwlondon

03-03-07   I believe this device is very similar to the m-audio transit ...   Audioengr

03-03-07   Hi steve and thanks. * so this thing will output spdif, but ...   Cwlondon

03-03-07   Cwlondon - no, we are not in the dark ages, you are just loo ...   Audioengr

03-04-07   I agree with steve. we are not at all in the dark ages with ...   Pardales


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