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  Is USB overrated as decent digital source?

Some of the USB DACs or USB-SPDIF converters are really expensive, are they really worth the price?

Is USB overrated?

Lets discuss.

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04-25-06
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04-25-06   I traded my fully modded modwright 999es for an expensive us ...   Gongos

04-25-06   Expensive ? what about the hagerman technology hagusb for ...   Restock

04-25-06   I have an ayre d1xe player over 10k, and i just bought a wav ...   Ejlif

04-25-06   I have been studying this for a few months and there are sev ...   Herman

04-26-06   Herman, i have been considering the mac mini with either a h ...   Agaffer

04-26-06   It comes without screen, keyboard, or mouse but just about a ...   Herman

04-26-06: Ckorody
Hi Mike -

That's a tremendous thread you got going on AA.

Really not much to discuss except for the various value propositions offered by the manufacturers.

As Herman points out there is much to like about one box solutions but this is basically the same argument as CD players. If you have a great DAC already go the USB box with a SPDIF output to get started.

As Herman points out, these devices are based on stock chipsets being mass manufactured. What we are seeing - and are not really used to yet as audiophiles- is the impact of being able to use mass produced standardized products designed to sell to a worldwide market.

As the market settles, I don't think that products will have or manufacturers will be able to justify the kind of price spread we are used to in the rest of our space. One big reason is that there is no need to jump through the kinds of hoops it takes to make a great transport, turntable or speaker. (eg advanced metallurgy and manufacturing skills, sophisticated power supplies, furniture grade cabinetry with resonance and damping controls etc, etc) No analog physics here - not much EE - just IT

IMHO the three devices that have had the biggest impact on most people reading this forum (and Asylum PC where I also post regularly under xmasparty) are the Waveterminal ($155), the Squeezebox ($249) and the iPod ($350) The leading software - iTunes - is free.

Even without the tweaks being offered by the modders like Steve, Gordon, Wayne and Vinnie, we are already as close to as most of us are going to get (or will ever need to get) to a perfect source. We have some money in your pocket. And you can go back to fiddling with the rest of your rig.

Add a few hundred dollars for a better power supply or clock or connectors or caps and you have something better then most of us ever dreamed of.

As the big boys in the CE space start to do the math on iPod adoption I would expect more and more of them to being implementing strategies to get a piece of this pie...

Ckorody  (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


04-26-06   Ok take for a moment that what your really asking is for som ...   Dlstephenson

04-26-06   Mr. stepenson, i'm not sure i follow. are you saying that th ...   Herman

04-26-06   Yes, usb1.1 has maximum 12mb/sec bandwidth which is still fa ...   mikechai@

04-27-06   So, which external usb dac have you decided on?   Agaffer

05-10-06   I sold my fully modded sb2 after 6 months a bought a cec tl- ...   Jsadurni

05-10-06   Usb is simply a method to get data from point a to point b. ...   Audioengr

11-27-06   Usb is underrated. i am using a bel canto dac-3 with a usb ...   Markalarsen

11-27-06   Mikechai - the difference in cost of usb converters is mostl ...   Audioengr

01-07-07   I see alot of comments about the speed of usb but not enough ...   Dlstephenson

01-07-07   There are many misconceptions about usb audio. the speed de ...   Herman

01-19-07   So are we saying that a .wav file is perfect as the informat ...   Michaelrutherford

01-20-07   Yep michael - you have figured it out - what's fascinating i ...   Ckorody

01-20-07   You've got it michael! that's why i divested myself of an ...   Mrmb

01-22-07   yah steve. agree with you. there's always a high cost if we ...   mikechai@

01-22-07   Mikechai - no. 1 is the most costly, but well worth it, part ...   Audioengr

01-23-07   There is a very nice professional product from tcelectronics ...   Ferenc

01-24-07   I'll check out the tcelectronics. what are the usb to spdif ...   mikechai@

01-24-07   The konnekt24d is powered from the firewire cable, which is ...   Audioengr

01-24-07   Audioengr, the konnekt can be firewire bus powered or extern ...   mikechai@

02-11-07   I am using a jvc 5.1 receiver model rx-9010vbk. this particu ...   Prusso1

02-12-07   fyi, the soon-to-be-shipping musical fidelity "x-dacv8 ...   Michaelct

02-12-07   Fwiw i am using a external dac made by m-audio called " ...   Mikewoodkozar

02-13-07   You implicitly raise an interesting point. considering firew ...   Pardales

02-13-07   I am very satisfied with the slimdevices transporter. it is ...   Unclejeff

02-13-07   Mikechai@gmail.com - anywhere near 1 nsec is high jitter in ...   Audioengr

02-13-07   Firewire and usb are similar in performance. the advantage ...   Audioengr

02-13-07   Unclejeff - it's a shame to spend $2k and just use the s/pdi ...   Audioengr

02-13-07   Audioengr: you have to study the konnekt brochure a bit mor ...   Ferenc

02-13-07   Audioengr; you make a good point. also, your inputs over ...   Unclejeff

02-13-07   Ferenc--wow! i just clicked on your system. i have never s ...   Unclejeff

02-14-07   Uncleff: :-)) actually the transport is not mine but one o ...   Ferenc

03-07-07   It seems that the venerable benchmark dac has been upgraded ...   Mosorensen

03-08-07   Bel canto dac 3, usb from a mac, is exquisite -- compared to ...   Michaelct

03-08-07   I actually auditioned the bel canto dac 3 prior to auditioni ...   Jc51373


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