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  Why "Cryo" anything?
Ok. So far, I have yet to think of a good explanation for "Cryo" treatment to enhance anything. Can someone explain this to me?

For background, I have a Master degree in Material Science Engineering. Here is my explaination why just "cryo" won't work.

At room temperature, the metal is already solid or frozen. Freezing it further won't do much. Most metals requires high temperature to cause any change in the microstructure or grain size/orientation/distribution. Simply freezing it for a few minutes will not change how it operates after the metal returns to room temperature.

Eric
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04-08-05
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04-08-05   I'm not going to offer any kind of post with regard to posit ...   Lugnut

04-08-05   Interesting reading: http://www.cryogenicsinternational.com/   Lak

04-08-05   Because the people who do it can then have a reason to charg ...   Mchd1

04-08-05   Well said, lugnut.   Stehno

04-08-05   Right on lugnut!!!!!!   Raytheprinter

04-08-05   Lugnut, i've not paid any attention to the arguments about c ...   Newbee

04-08-05   Cryo is just a form of heat treatment. heat treatment has be ...   Eldartford

04-08-05   Try a cryoed razor side by side with its non-cryoed version. ...   Clbeanz

04-08-05   It's really simple to test. cryo say one tube or cable (matc ...   Kw6

04-08-05   Cyro treatment magically re-aligns the molecules without the ...   russ.schaeffer@

04-08-05   Newbee, i'm staying out of the pros or cons argument. geez, ...   Lugnut

04-08-05   I have only used four cryoed cable, and did not have the sam ...   Viridian

04-08-05   I had two of the same power conditioners, i lent one to a fr ...   Ejlif

04-08-05   You should have gotten your bs in mse. then you could have ...   Psychicanimal

04-08-05   I'm no expert in mse, but from what i understand is that the ...   Gs5556

04-08-05   Sorry, newbee - apparently someone got up on the wrong side ...   Mr_hosehead

04-08-05   I'm not an mse, but i am a chemist & have had some materials ...   Fishboat

04-08-05   Fishboat, you may not be an mse but that doesn't dull your s ...   Newbee

04-08-05   I have personally had good and bad experience with cryogenic ...   Hifimaniac

04-08-05   Anuice. now there's one reason to cryo...   Mr_hosehead

04-08-05   I must have hit a nerve or something. anyway, maybe i did n ...   Ejliu

04-09-05   Cryogenic treatment: from jena labs your options "man ...   Lak

04-09-05   Yeah, cryoing cables is good, but remember, the more you ben ...   Elizabeth

04-09-05   Elizabeth, good point. i've even noticed that if i disconne ...   Lugnut

04-09-05   The reason that liquid nitrogen is so cheap is that it is an ...   Eldartford

04-09-05   Did your car's engine sound better than before? (just a j ...   Aggielaw

04-09-05   Aggielaw, there was a noticeable bloom in the mid rpm range ...   Lugnut

04-09-05   Naturally, everyone is free to believe what they wish, but s ...   Fishboat

04-09-05   Lol! very nice. :)   Aggielaw

04-09-05   No disrespect fishboat, but dropping items into n2 does not ...   Hdm

04-09-05   . fishboat, . you have just ranted based on your ignorance. ...   Cello

04-10-05   Cello, can you point out the double blind studies that shows ...   Ejliu

04-10-05   Eric: "biased" or not, that's my opinion based on ...   Hdm

04-10-05   Eric, are you assuming that my engine block was first heat ...   Lugnut

04-10-05   "cryo treatments absolutely do great things sonically f ...   Mr_hosehead

04-10-05   It's your money...what you do with it is your business. at t ...   Fishboat

04-10-05   Fishboat, ah, fresh air in your sails! leave the polution be ...   Newbee

04-10-05   . hi eric / mr_hosehead, . a friend and i did the double bli ...   Cello

04-10-05   There are situations where science cannot explain why someth ...   Eldartford

04-10-05   . eldartford, . i am ok with elephants can't fly, but cryo t ...   Cello

04-10-05   How could cryo treatment possibly affect the sound from opti ...   Drubin

04-10-05   . drubin, . i can not tell you why cryoed cd's sound so much ...   Cello

04-11-05   Couldn't have anything to do with the optical characteristic ...   Geoffkait

04-12-05   After reading through all these posts, i think i am going to ...   Ejliu

04-12-05   . ejliu, . so in essence you are saying (if i understand you ...   Cello

04-12-05   Ejliu, w/ ms materials science eng., surely you must know th ...   Geoffkait

04-12-05   Hi guys...just joined.. cryo treatment of steel: as steel ...   Jneutron

04-12-05: Ejliu
Geoffkait,
Please go through my post again. Cold tempering requires heat treatment cycle. Not cooling from room temperature, which is what's in vogue right now in Audio.

Cello,
Please try to under this. When you make a scientific claim such as DBT testing, the test result must be statistically significant. Otherwise, it's just pseudo-science.

Eric

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04-12-05   . john, . great post and very informative thank you. yes, i ...   Cello

04-12-05   Ejliu, i think i'm beginning to understand the purpose of y ...   Lugnut


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