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03-22-04
I look forward to the reading and entertainment! :-) Lak
03-22-04
Eldartford,i know from reading your threads & responses that ... Bigjoe
03-22-04
Bigjoe...i guess i agree that i am "into" digital, ... Eldartford
03-22-04
I think this will be an excellent test. Bigjoe
03-22-04
I hope it's not "shocking" for eldartford's sake. Albertporter
03-23-04
Yes, watch where you stick your screw driver. Viggen
03-23-04
I have a question for audiogon. why did the thread that star ... Maxgain
04-01-04
Any results yet? i recently installed my first cryo-treated ... Stehno
04-01-04
Sorry for the delay guys. we are involved with two weddings ... Eldartford
04-01-04
Ed, with all due respect.the thing i already question about ... Maxgain
04-01-04
Maxgain, i would tend to agree with your statements. i only ... Stehno
04-02-04
Stehno the prior thread that led to this point where ed is ... Maxgain
04-02-04
Thanks for the update, maxgain. btw, nice system and clean ... Stehno
04-02-04
Ed, your credibility will wither away if the results aren't ... Tubegroover
04-02-04
Maxgain...as a "scientist" whose specialty has bee ... Eldartford
04-02-04
Stheno, thanks. you have a cool set up going on yourself. i ... Maxgain
04-02-04
Cool setup? like an altar! Psychicanimal
04-02-04
I tried a cryo'd hbl8300 (porter port) and a normal 8300 in ... Subaruguru
04-03-04
Maxgain...i wonder why you think that being a scientist prev ... Eldartford
04-03-04
Ther cryo'ed receptacle will stay cooler to the touch. Psychicanimal
04-03-04
Psychicanimal...that will be very easy to measure. you're on ... Eldartford
04-04-04
I am curious to see the outcome of this test. however, erni ... Trelja
04-04-04
Was leonardo da vinci an engineer, or an artist? is the eif ... Eldartford
04-04-04
And lak's still the world's expert on cryo'ed outlets... Psychicanimal
04-04-04
I did an initial round of listening tests, and, not to keep ... Eldartford
04-05-04
Now, now, eldartford. if you were truly objective in your o ... Stehno
04-05-04: Hdm
Stehno: As the sender of the outlets, I know that #4 and #6 are not true.
That being said, Ed has drawn his conclusions and so be it. One thing I do have slight problem with is that Ed, in this situation seems to be doing the listening in a re-configured system that is quite a bit different than that which he normally listens to, and then doing quick A-B comparisons. I would feel more comfortable with comparisons being made in a system and room that is identical to which the tester normally listens to. I also feel that quick switching (sepecially within the context of a system that the listener is unfamiliar with) is less than ideal and that the system should be listened to for a considerable period of time fully powered up, perhaps even 2-3 days with one receptacle and then switched over to the other. Ideally, as I've said before, but not possible in this case, comparisons should be made with a system drawing entirely (no mix and match) from one type of receptacle. I don't consider myself to be a true scientist, but there are a lot of variables here.
I'd be curious, Ed, if it is easy for you to do, to compare either of the outlets to the stock outlet you are using to see if you could discern any difference between your stock and what I sent you. If it's too much trouble, don't bother.
But, I'm comfortable with Ed's conclusions and would only point out that one can argue just as vociferously that his conclusions are just as "psychological" as those arrived at by the pro cryo camp. Kind of an endless circle of an argument. At least we've gone through the process.
Hdm (Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
04-05-04
Ed, i give you credit for at least doing your own listening ... Maxgain
04-05-04
Eldartford, hopefully my previous post was taken tongue-in-c ... Stehno
04-05-04
Thanks for not beating up on me too much because i don't hea ... Eldartford
04-05-04
Stehno, did you, as mentioned above, own the very same outle ... Dmoffitt
04-05-04
Dmoffitt, both are hubbell 20amp iec connectors. the one fr ... Stehno
04-05-04
Just to clarify things ed, my suggestion regarding playing t ... Hdm
04-05-04
I think i stated in a previous post that i noticed barely au ... Stehno
04-05-04
I have a close friend who's a piezo-transducer wiz, making w ... Subaruguru
04-05-04
Psych's comic comment has an element of usefulness (!). it's ... Subaruguru
04-05-04
Quite apart from my cryo evaluation project, let me point ou ... Eldartford
04-05-04
How 'bout sending me that worthless bit of snake oil? i'll ... Stehno
04-06-04
Interesting, el. but then why don't strings sound different ... Subaruguru
04-06-04
Ern: if you ask dean markley, strings do sound different af ... Tombowlus
04-06-04
I wouldn't hazard a guess one way or the other about strings ... Eldartford
04-09-04
Ed: when you are finished with the receptacles, if you want ... Hdm
04-09-04
Hdm...sure. will ship to stehno if someone gives me an addre ... Eldartford
04-09-04
Ed: if it's easier, just send the receptacles (i certainly d ... Hdm
04-09-04
Is this a test? hdm, i'd be happy to try the outlets. but ... Stehno
04-09-04
Stehno, there may be a problem in that both these receptacle ... Hdm
04-09-04
Hdm, do i have to determine which set of screws are cryo-tre ... Stehno
04-10-04
Hdm and stehno...ok. i will dismount both outlets from the b ... Eldartford
04-10-04
Eldart, if i were you i'd send stenho two non cryo'ed outlet ... Psychicanimal
04-10-04
That's what hdm did. :-) i feel like i'm witnessing histor ... Drubin
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