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  The Great Cryo'd Outlet Test
Some have wondered about the Cryo'd outlet test that this skeptic has agreed to do, thanks to the generous loan of an outlet by another member. The situation is that the outlet, and its non-cryo'd twin have been breaking in for several weeks and I think we can agree they are ready for evaluation. Performing the tests will involve littering the room with various amps and speakers with the associated wires strung around, so, and I am sure you understand, I need to wait for a free day when my dear wife is elsewhere occupied.
A report will be made.
Eldartford  (Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

03-22-04
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03-22-04   I look forward to the reading and entertainment! :-)   Lak

03-22-04   Eldartford,i know from reading your threads & responses that ...   Bigjoe

03-22-04   Bigjoe...i guess i agree that i am "into" digital, ...   Eldartford

03-22-04   I think this will be an excellent test.   Bigjoe

03-22-04   I hope it's not "shocking" for eldartford's sake.   Albertporter

03-23-04   Yes, watch where you stick your screw driver.   Viggen

03-23-04   I have a question for audiogon. why did the thread that star ...   Maxgain

04-01-04   Any results yet? i recently installed my first cryo-treated ...   Stehno

04-01-04   Sorry for the delay guys. we are involved with two weddings ...   Eldartford

04-01-04   Ed, with all due respect.the thing i already question about ...   Maxgain

04-01-04   Maxgain, i would tend to agree with your statements. i only ...   Stehno

04-02-04   Stehno the prior thread that led to this point where ed is ...   Maxgain

04-02-04   Thanks for the update, maxgain. btw, nice system and clean ...   Stehno

04-02-04   Ed, your credibility will wither away if the results aren't ...   Tubegroover

04-02-04   Maxgain...as a "scientist" whose specialty has bee ...   Eldartford

04-02-04   Stheno, thanks. you have a cool set up going on yourself. i ...   Maxgain

04-02-04   Cool setup? like an altar!   Psychicanimal

04-02-04: Subaruguru
I tried a cryo'd HBL8300 (Porter Port) and a normal 8300 in my system, first with the EMC-1 UP and then on my Aleph P. Couldn't hear a difference. I then simnplified to just using the EMC-1 alone, fed DIRECTLY to Senn HD600 cans through the RCA outs via adaptors (surprisingly nice match, yet a bit loud), and STILL couldn't hear a difference. Thought I'd at least catch some difference in the top octave somewhere, but nope.
All circuits are discrete 83803EST dedicated lines, 35' long, via my PCKs. Again, my mind's open to cryo's possible effects, but I remain believing that it's the possible reduction of dielectric effects of the INSULATORS consequent to cryo-ing their adjacent conductors that yiels a possible improvement. Yet for some insulators (especially Teflon), there are better ways to accomplish this "curing", but my intent isn't to bend the thread here.
El, I too would REALLY simplify the test systems, to the point of allowing at least 48 hours gravitational settling and isothermality before swapping the test objects. Using cans directly from a source might at least reduce other variables in the chain, too. Bigger problem is going to be the implementation of at least single-blind methodology, preferably in the dark, unless you can recruit your wife with a bribe of some sort...and how to categorize your results, and their interpretation. (PS Jewelry usually works with Ellen!) Have fun.

Subaruguru  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


04-03-04   Maxgain...i wonder why you think that being a scientist prev ...   Eldartford

04-03-04   Ther cryo'ed receptacle will stay cooler to the touch.   Psychicanimal

04-03-04   Psychicanimal...that will be very easy to measure. you're on ...   Eldartford

04-04-04   I am curious to see the outcome of this test. however, erni ...   Trelja

04-04-04   Was leonardo da vinci an engineer, or an artist? is the eif ...   Eldartford

04-04-04   And lak's still the world's expert on cryo'ed outlets...   Psychicanimal

04-04-04   I did an initial round of listening tests, and, not to keep ...   Eldartford

04-05-04   Now, now, eldartford. if you were truly objective in your o ...   Stehno

04-05-04   Stehno: as the sender of the outlets, i know that #4 and #6 ...   Hdm

04-05-04   Ed, i give you credit for at least doing your own listening ...   Maxgain

04-05-04   Eldartford, hopefully my previous post was taken tongue-in-c ...   Stehno

04-05-04   Thanks for not beating up on me too much because i don't hea ...   Eldartford

04-05-04   Stehno, did you, as mentioned above, own the very same outle ...   Dmoffitt

04-05-04   Dmoffitt, both are hubbell 20amp iec connectors. the one fr ...   Stehno

04-05-04   Just to clarify things ed, my suggestion regarding playing t ...   Hdm

04-05-04   I think i stated in a previous post that i noticed barely au ...   Stehno

04-05-04   I have a close friend who's a piezo-transducer wiz, making w ...   Subaruguru

04-05-04   Psych's comic comment has an element of usefulness (!). it's ...   Subaruguru

04-05-04   Quite apart from my cryo evaluation project, let me point ou ...   Eldartford

04-05-04   How 'bout sending me that worthless bit of snake oil? i'll ...   Stehno

04-06-04   Interesting, el. but then why don't strings sound different ...   Subaruguru

04-06-04   Ern: if you ask dean markley, strings do sound different af ...   Tombowlus

04-06-04   I wouldn't hazard a guess one way or the other about strings ...   Eldartford

04-09-04   Ed: when you are finished with the receptacles, if you want ...   Hdm

04-09-04   Hdm...sure. will ship to stehno if someone gives me an addre ...   Eldartford

04-09-04   Ed: if it's easier, just send the receptacles (i certainly d ...   Hdm

04-09-04   Is this a test? hdm, i'd be happy to try the outlets. but ...   Stehno

04-09-04   Stehno, there may be a problem in that both these receptacle ...   Hdm

04-09-04   Hdm, do i have to determine which set of screws are cryo-tre ...   Stehno

04-10-04   Hdm and stehno...ok. i will dismount both outlets from the b ...   Eldartford

04-10-04   Eldart, if i were you i'd send stenho two non cryo'ed outlet ...   Psychicanimal

04-10-04   That's what hdm did. :-) i feel like i'm witnessing histor ...   Drubin


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