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  Ever Have One Of Those Evenings?
Tonight, I went downstairs, turned on the system, and it sounded like crap. Within an hour I had:

>Discovered that one of my Thiel 2.2's has either a dead woofer (most likely), or a crossover or internal wiring problem. Testing to diagnose will commence tomorrow, tonight I'm too P.O.'ed.

>Additionally discovered that the tweeter on the other side is distorting badly, and will need the dome/voice-coil assembly replaced (again).

>Confirmed that my most costly set of interconnects has a bad jack connection (these are Harmonic Technology Magic Link Ones, which naturally feature a plug design that cannot easily be opened up for inspection or repairs without destroying the heat-shrink sleeve).

>Faced the distinct possibility that my futzing around behind the preamp trying to ascertain the culprit in the latter problem - without first turning down the volume - may well have been the cause of least one of the first two problems.

>Realized that now, not only can't I listen to my system the regular way, but since the OEM (non-standard) headphone amp output jack I got from Musical Fidelity's distributor to replace the faulty original in my X-Cans quickly developed the same exact problem as the old one (no right channel with either set of 'phones), I cannot even listen with my headphones for the time being, except through my CD-R recorder's wimpy monitoring jack.

Looks like I'm on a steady diet of cable movies and NPR for a while. (Way to go, Trent Lott: at least you'll be out-of-sight, out-of-mind by this time next week, you plastic-haired cretin - your plight is the one redeeming feature of my evening!)
Zaikesman  (Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

12-11-02
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12-11-02   Wow!!!   Jond

12-11-02   Small comfort, but from my experience, ht will repair your i ...   Drubin

12-11-02   Zaikesman: so sorry to hear of the problems and i hope it a ...   Cwlondon

12-11-02   When it rains it pours. sorry to hear of your plight. as you ...   Unsound

12-11-02   Holy cow zaikes! reminds me of the time i fused all the out ...   Rockvirgo

12-11-02   Take it easy zaikes, after doing this for 30 yrs i've had si ...   Captpenny

12-11-02   Zaikesman, sorry to hear that you have more problems than ju ...   Maxgain

12-11-02   Regarding your statement about the right honorable gentleman ...   Onhwy61

12-11-02   Yeah, but it don't exactly take tons of insight to figure ou ...   Zaikesman

12-11-02   Man oh man. i've had a bass radiator on a pair of thiels co ...   Mezmo

12-11-02   Hey lotts my hero, nott!   Rphsvc

12-11-02   Zaikes, hang in there! i went for 8 months without my prima ...   Ozfly

12-11-02   Gosh, looks like i have it easy. why is it i suspect that b ...   Zaikesman

12-11-02   The bose and jvc owners have approximately the warranty peri ...   Tobias

12-11-02   Well, zaikes of course we all feel for you. my preamp went b ...   Tubemiser

12-11-02   From what i understand, npr can damage your hearing. it is ...   Stehno

12-11-02   It could be worse. i once read a post from a fella with a n ...   Holzhauer

12-11-02   This is one reason i have 3 systems in my house, this way at ...   Paulg805

12-11-02   Boy do i feel your pain! reminds me of the time i was insta ...   Kinsekd

12-11-02   I've certainly had component, wire, and other misc problems ...   Garfish

12-11-02   Hey zaikesman ... perhaps if you short out and fry your powe ...   Seandtaylor99

12-11-02   Hey, but you still have your health!! unless you've elect ...   Mattybumpkin

12-11-02   Y'know, when i posted this i didn't expect so many similar t ...   Zaikesman

12-11-02   I'm very liberal myself, but i guess i'm sort of surprised w ...   Thedautch

12-11-02   Hey, i'm always surprised by how many of us seem to be basic ...   Zaikesman

12-11-02   Thedautch - where do you think all the money for those tax c ...   Kinsekd

12-11-02   Fortunately, i have never had one of "those" eveni ...   Hifiho

12-11-02   I have never belonged to any politcal party.   Unsound

12-11-02   Look at the bright side, no one got hurt, right? i acquired ...   Jeffloistarca

12-12-02   Baal the audio god requires more sacrifice from your wallet. ...   Agnes3

12-12-02   Sounds like z has a pain in the ass to deal with and jeff ha ...   Sean

12-12-02   Or deaf. :-)   Zaikesman

12-12-02   What was that z ? i can't hear you over the ringing in my e ...   Sean

12-12-02   One spot of good news - i think i found a good entire spare ...   Zaikesman

12-12-02   Zaikesman, you could plug those guitar amps into cryo'd outl ...   Maxgain

12-12-02   Thedautch & zaikesman - i couldn't help but chime in here o ...   Slipknot1

12-13-02   Maxgain - although i'm partial to my vintage amps (guitar-wi ...   Zaikesman

12-13-02   Zaikesman- i am by profession a librarian and an it person. ...   Slipknot1

12-13-02   Slipknot--i know. i work in the hall of the states, right n ...   Thedautch

12-14-02   What do you guys hear about hollings and the riaa and their ...   Zaikesman

12-14-02   Zaikesman--short answer: yes! long answer: far more than an ...   Thedautch

12-15-02   Um, getting back to my speaker... i removed the silent woof ...   Zaikesman

12-19-02   Well, this about seals it - the impedance of the affected sp ...   Zaikesman

12-19-02   Sorry to hear about the fried crossover. hope you get it fi ...   Seandtaylor99

12-19-02   Tell me about it - if my girlfriend's in the house, the cabl ...   Zaikesman

12-19-02   I've come to the conclusion that daytime television is an in ...   Seandtaylor99

12-19-02   Spoken like one who knows... :-)   Zaikesman

12-19-02   I am very lucky to have never been unemployed. i did once h ...   Seandtaylor99

12-19-02   Sherry at thiel has said that it probably is possible for me ...   Zaikesman

12-19-02   Zaikesman, aren't your thiels recommended for use with amps ...   Unsound

12-20-02   I don't know if thiel will look at it that way, unsound. i' ...   Zaikesman

12-20-02   Zaikesman, perhaps saying nothing might be prudent untill th ...   Unsound

12-20-02   Well, i was mum about the circumstances when i spoke to sher ...   Zaikesman

12-20-02   Perhaps an independent evaluation of your amp might be in or ...   Unsound

12-20-02   Btw, i'm not suggesting that you mislead the good people at ...   Unsound

12-20-02   You thiel owners can thank me in part that your speakers don ...   Maxgain

12-20-02   Maxgain, you may be surprised to know that thiel's latest of ...   Unsound

12-21-02   You don't need an equalizer for a sealed box if it is done r ...   Sean

12-21-02   Unsound, i might use the downtime to have amps modded anyway ...   Zaikesman

12-21-02   Sean, i agree with you re: sealed boxes sans equalization an ...   Unsound

12-21-02   Yes unsound i am suprised. it was just that they were talkin ...   Maxgain

12-21-02   Maxgain, yes there was a 5 (and 5i), it didn't use an equali ...   Unsound

12-22-02   Maxgain, thiel would seem to have learned much since those t ...   Zaikesman

12-22-02   Zaikesman, i hope i can count on you to share what ever you ...   Unsound

12-22-02   Well, that would depend on whether, if i see jt and get to a ...   Zaikesman

12-22-02   Maybe you can leave it in your will?   Unsound

01-04-03   Zaikesman, you ever get things working?   Maxgain

01-04-03   Thanks for asking, maxgain. both i and the folks at thiel w ...   Zaikesman

01-04-03   Z...go catch some live music this winter. you'll be respirit ...   Subaruguru

01-05-03   Rest assured, i catch as much live music as i can year 'roun ...   Zaikesman

03-31-03: Zaikesman
UPDATE: OK, here it is over four months after my speaker first went bad, and I'm finally back from Kentucky country with a supposedly fixed-up speaker (I haven't unpacked it yet, but of course it was tested by the factory before I left). It turned out to have *both* a bad woofer *and* a bad crossover, the former possibly a result of the latter. The rasping tweeter on the other side was swapped by me for the one in the dead speaker back when this all first happened, so I also got a new tweeter installed by the fatory.

As usual, Thiel service was great, and I got to take a factory tour, which I'll post about separately. I also found out that the problem with my 2.2's crossover is a common one involving an under-spec'ed resistor, and I'll make another new post alerting folks to that situation. Now I just have to make the resistor upgrade preemptively to the other speaker, and then get on with the business of re-breaking everything in again.

During the intervening time, I must say that I got very used to listening in mono (my amplification is monoblock, a necessity for this usage when you're talking tubes and only have one speaker available - a stereo tube amp cannot be run with one channel's output left unconnected to a speaker load). This is a little easier for me than for many of you, as I am a big listener to vintage 45's and mono LP's. I think I might actually wind up missing this, 'cause it does have its advantages, which I'll also post about in a separate new thread.

Anyway, after so many various delays in our being able to make this trip, my girlfriend and I did at least manage to turn it into a week-long vacation. Eastern and central Kentucky (Thiel is based in Lexington) have wonderful terrain, and the state maintains a particularly good network of large wilderness parks, many complete with extensive hiking trails, campsite facilities, and even several very nice (but inexpensive) park lodges. There are impressive gorges, mountain ranges, waterfalls, natural sandstone 'bridges', cliffs, caves, and other features of interest to visit, both in KY and in West Virginia and southwestern Virginia. Living in the DC area, I was already familiar with the better-known Blue Ridge and Shenandoah areas of the Appalachians, as well as the more distant Smokies of the Carolinas and Tennessee, but this area was new to me, and I will certainly be going back someday for more.

Of course, you know I scored my fair share of old vinyl in thrifts and fleas while I was there! And of special interest to sound freaks, we also visited what is billed as the world's largest all-wooden cathedral, the Buckhorn log church remotely situated in the small town of the same name. Built entirely of oak planks and beams (without even nails - all the joinery is wooden) in the rustic Scandinavian style by a wealthy transplanted New Yorker during the early 1900's, it has what looked to be about 40' high ceilings and contains a fairly large antique pipe organ moved from Philadelphia. We didn't get to hear the organ play, much less the choir sing - the church is unheated and doesn't open for regular use until later in the season - but talking and walking around inside the building it's clear this place has an amazing and unique acoustic. Too bad the man who admitted us told us when I asked him that no commercial recordings have ever been made there though.

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