Dan- Is this first hand knowledge? My cynical side says it sounds too good to be true. I must admit its a great story; regardless of whether its true or not (and I would like it to be true). BTW, I had family stranded here; they flew back to Denver among the first flights leaving CT and all went well.
Swampwalker (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
I have no doubt in my mind, that this letter is based on fact. Thanks Dan, for sharing it with us. As an European, I would say its "typically American" in its mixture of wry humour, directness, single- mindedness of purpose and matter of fact pragmatism. These are traits which seem to come out most stongest in your nation in times of duress! Without that, we here in Europe would all be under the boots of the Nazis, or red or dead! I keep on telling this to my intellectual friends, who feel, that you should turn the other cheek and best not go to fight at all, rather negotiate peacefully and remedy your mistakes in middle east policy, so they could go on living their complacent lives, which they certainly would not have had without the sacrifices America has brought in the last century and is still preparing to bring, to ensure freedom for us all. So, a thankyou from Europe for taking the stand, that you do and God bless you all and your great country!
Detlof (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
If that is in fact true, than I (Brian) say Bravo to that flight crew.
It's a good idea, but maybe not as politically correct as some may like (too bad).
Maybe if that speech would have been made before the other flights took off on Sept 11th things might have been different, although I don't want to explore the "what if's" of that terrible day.
FYI, I drove by LAX airport on Sept 21st to see what to expect on an upcoming trip.
Half of the LAPD was there, along with the LAPD buses that brought
(yes, LAPD buses).
Many of the roads around LAX are closed, blocked off by the LAPD.
It looked as if they were preparing for for a war (no joking).
Lets hope not. You now have to park at least 1/2 mile away.
You can no longer drive a private car to the terminals.
They were also stopping every single bus and shuttle before letting them enter.
Many people will now have to be irritated that they can no longer be irritated about airport delays.
Again, bravo to that flight crew.
HelloSimplyMusic (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
I don't know if this letter, which was a forwarded email to me, is factual or not. I do know that it speaks to the fact that WE, (civilized human beings,) are always stronger when we stand together.
This burst of collective humanity and brotherhood is a welcomed relief from the self-centered approach popular culture had envisioned for us.
Danvetc (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
Charlie- agreed. Just wondering and trying unsuccessfully not to let my cynicism show. It doesn't help that a doctored photo was just emailed to me purporting to show a sightseer on the WTC observation deck (did it actually have an open air deck?), with the plane over his shoulder about to crash into the building. This is being circulated as found on film in a camera removed from the debris, with the subject still unaccounted for.
Swampwalker (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
Charlie, great story whether true or not (and I'm guessing it is). Thanks for sharing it.
Paulwp (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
It will be two weeks tomorrow since the horrible force that befell this country, and indeed the entire world. I have on three prior occasions started to write comments in a couple of the related threads and simply have not had the emotional wherewithal to finish, until I read Detlof's remarks. I thank him for his post and his wisdom.
On Tuesday 9/11 at 9:09 A.M., as I drove north on the New Jersey Tpk. I was shocked out of my "not quite awake yet" stupor by the most unbelievable sight. On my right up ahead, on the other side of the Hudson river, the twin towers were burning. WBGO in Newark informed me of what was happening. I wish I could describe what one feels at a time like that, but I can't. The shock and disbelief numbs one in part. I can only try to imagine what those in the burning buildings trying to get out, or heroically trying to get in felt.
Fifty minutes earlier I had dropped my ten year old son (the real Frogman) off at school in Brooklyn NY; a little earlier than usual, as I had to be in Newark NJ by ten. At that point of my trip I have two choices, through Staten Island to NJ, or through lower Manhattan, just past and underneath the WTC, to the Holland tunnel. I chose the Staten Island route. The sense of relief and almost petty self-congratulation that I felt for having chosen what had been the safest route, and not the one that would have put me smack in the middle of the devastation did not last long once I realized what a small inconvenience it was that I would be stranded in NJ for what would end up being thirty six hours, unable to get back into New York, let alone Brooklyn. I have never wanted to hug that ten year old boy as badly as I did that day.
NYC and this country as a whole has been changed forever. The feeling in NYC over the last thirteen days has been indescribable. The sound, the rhythm of the city is palpable in it's difference, absence, and sadness. The look on the faces of people on the streets and in the subways says it all. The feeling one gets upon entering one's home for the first time in thirty six hours and noticing that the smell of the destruction is trapped inside is very moving to us the lucky ones. But all the traits of the people of this country that Detlof so well describes are there in spades; more than ever. I hear people greeting each other more than ever, acts of kindness by ordinary folks are everywhere, inspired by the incredible generosity and heroism demonstrated by many.
As a ten year old boy myself I came to the US with family to escape the politics of Fidel Castro. I am indebted to this country for allowing my family and I to make this our home. I am proud to be an American; today more than ever. Despite it's mistakes and excesses, this was and continues to be the greatest country on the planet. What this country and it's people have demonstrated over the last thirteen days is awe inspiring. What a great example for the world to see. As far as the politics of it all, I have nothing to add to Detlof's comments.
I believe that in time this event will be seen, in spite of the horror, to have been the turning point to a better America and a better world. The forces of evil can not win over the collective good that the people of this planet are capable of. God bless America and our world.
Frogman (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
...whatever happened inside of hijacked planes before we can only assume that there weren't enough time for passengers to realize that planes had been hijacked. Probably only on one that crashed on the fields of Pensilvanya had a fight between passengers and terrorists.
Now we only can only speak to each other in different ways about what lesson we've just had and what has been done after to prevent such "lessons"
Marakanetz (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)