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  An observation about "Modern" classical music.
As I sat in my car, waiting for my wife as usual, I listened to a local classical music station which happened to be playing some "modern" music. I don't like it, being an old fart who likes Mozart and his ilk. But, as I had nothing else to do, I tried to appreciate what I heard. No luck, but I did notice something I have experienced before but never thought about. At the end, there was a dead silence of 3 to 5 seconds before audience applause. This never happens with, for example, Mozart where the final notes never get a chance to decay before the applause and Bravos. Obviously (IMHO) the music was so hard to "follow" that the audience were not sure it was over until nothing happened for a while.

I know that some guys like this music, but haven't you noticed this dead time? How do you explain it?
Eldartford  (Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

07-01-05
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12-03-05: Lousyreeds1
I'm listening to Penderecki's Auschwitz Oratorio as we speak. This is as moving and as viscerally captivating (not to mention disturbing) as anything I've ever heard. Give it a try if you're ready for a very intense musical experience.

I'm not sure I agree with Schubertmaniac on the definition of art, but his assertion that modern music expresses as wide a range of emotion as any in history in right on. In fact, some would argue that with increasing harmonic complexity comes increasing ability to explore the nuances of the human condition. Sounds pretentious, but I think it's true in many cases.

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12-03-05   I've been reading this thread for some time without commenti ...   Albertporter

12-03-05   Shubertmaniac..."inventive" is great, but the real ...   Eldartford

12-03-05   Aaaah, it's refreshing to see a thread about the substance o ...   Bojack

12-03-05   Eldartford: i see a lot of hypocrisy in stating your musical ...   Lousyreeds1

12-03-05   A reader doesnt like dante "divine comedy" or does ...   Seurat

12-03-05   Lousyreeds1...i don't think that i ever said that my prefere ...   Eldartford

12-03-05   "this thread is supposed to be about thoughtful analysi ...   Lousyreeds1

12-03-05   Sorry, but not every detail carries such weighty "meani ...   Arkprof

12-03-05   Lousyreeds1...if you will check my original posting you will ...   Eldartford

12-03-05   On the contrary, i'm doing everything i can to suggest ways ...   Lousyreeds1

12-03-05   One fench piano teacher said: "music should not come f ...   Marakanetz

12-04-05   Marakanetz...i don't claim extensive knowledge about musical ...   Eldartford

12-05-05   The question of art is a valid one particularly in a post mo ...   Shubertmaniac

12-05-05   Wnyc-fm (93.9) plays modern classical music. wkcr (89.9) co ...   Theduke

12-08-05   I just happened on this thread during a break from work. ea ...   Johnrob

12-09-05   Eldartford, we're in the world of different events and subj ...   Marakanetz

12-09-05   Marakanetz... i like "peter and the wolf". maybe t ...   Eldartford

12-09-05   Eldartford: not all but 99% of modern classical music is str ...   Shubertmaniac

12-09-05   The problem is that as the composers use the 12 tone scale w ...   Robm321

12-09-05   Shubertmaniac: no, serialism is by definition atonal. it ha ...   Lousyreeds1

12-09-05   Lousyreeds1...on a different subject..i am curious, about yo ...   Eldartford

12-09-05   Can't sing?   Lousyreeds1

12-09-05   That last post from lousyreeds cuts to the heart of this iss ...   Brownsfan

12-10-05   Hi brownsfan, fantastic post! i've never heard of lohrmann, ...   Lousyreeds1

12-10-05   I have three recommendations for modern classical music that ...   Johnrob

12-10-05   Lousyreeds, i moved from ohio to indianapolis about 15 year ...   Brownsfan

12-10-05   Lousyreeds1...vocal cords are sometimes called "reeds&q ...   Eldartford

12-11-05   Well in that case i should call myself lousyreed2. great p ...   Robm321

12-12-05   Just a quick note of agreement on the shostakovich quartets ...   Opalchip

12-13-05   For shostakovich quartets try the borodin q version on melod ...   Gregm

12-13-05   I've read up on serial/12 tone - they were in the same chapt ...   Robm321

12-17-05   Robm, robm, robm! i can't give you details on john adams cr ...   Brownsfan

12-18-05   I am really happy that some people do like "modern" ...   Eldartford

12-18-05   Ever listened to the "hoe down" from copland's &qu ...   Lousyreeds1

12-18-05   lousyreeds1...yes i have heard copland"s "rodeo&q ...   Eldartford

12-19-05   Eldarford your initial post didn't state the intent of aski ...   Johnrob

12-19-05   John...i don't know why you and other modernists assume that ...   Eldartford

12-19-05   Eldartford, sorry if i assumed incorrectly, it wasn't obvio ...   Johnrob

12-19-05   John...my initial posting describes how it evolved from a li ...   Eldartford

12-19-05   "if i can't hum it, i don't like it." all i can s ...   Lousyreeds1

12-19-05   "atonal" has been used by bach and all the rest. i ...   Robm321

12-20-05   Robm321...you are absolutely correct about beethoven's late ...   Eldartford

12-21-05   Lol eldartford - how can i argue with that. the more he lost ...   Robm321

12-21-05   Robm321 also listen to speigal im speigal. one of the best ...   Johnrob

12-22-05   John, i have listened to speigal and agree with you. i thi ...   Robm321

12-25-05   A funny thing happened yesterday. a radio station that i oft ...   Eldartford

12-25-05   Says a lot more about you as a listener than about "'th ...   Lousyreeds1

12-25-05   Lousyreeds1...i can agree with that. it says that i am not t ...   Eldartford

12-26-05   Please, eldartford. you're quite proud of the fact that you ...   Lousyreeds1

12-26-05   Lousyreeds1...as the saying goes..."if i said that i wa ...   Eldartford

12-26-05   If you're going to post snyde comments about what you call ' ...   Lousyreeds1

12-26-05   Lousyreeds1..."that" music was an acknowledgement ...   Eldartford

12-27-05   I agree with eldartford. no offense to those that like that ...   Robm321

12-28-05   Eldartford, the ingenious subtlety of your prose was lost on ...   Lousyreeds1

12-28-05   Lousyreeds1...serious question...do you feel that there are ...   Eldartford

12-29-05   "i like music if i can hum it" - this narrows your ...   Seurat

12-29-05   i'll take a delayed audience response any day of the week t ...   Themadmilkman

12-29-05   Seurat...beethoven "moonlight" sonatta and the fir ...   Eldartford

12-29-05   Eldartford, i love classical music including contemporary cl ...   Seurat

12-29-05   Eldartford, "don't we all narrow our musical choices t ...   Brownsfan

12-29-05   Brownsfan...following "quit after peter and the wolf&qu ...   Eldartford

12-30-05   Eldartford, it's because you don't understand the peas ;) ...   Robm321

04-12-07   Today's local newspaper reports that the boston symphony orc ...   Eldartford

04-12-07   Once in bam i and my other 2 friends had 2 tickets extra to ...   Marakanetz

04-13-07   Marakanetz...interestingly most of the tanglewood audience s ...   Eldartford

04-13-07   i would love to see koyanisquatsi, especially stoned! oops ...   Chadnliz

04-13-07   Hello, i would like to see it stoned also, but i sure would ...   Acoustat6

04-14-07   you bring the papers...........   Chadnliz

04-14-07   Ah!...now i understand why i can't appreciate contemporary m ...   Eldartford

04-14-07   "mmmmmmmmmmmmmm cheese and crackers" (homer simps ...   Chadnliz

04-14-07   Chad... durin' munch? i wasn't stoned and was enjoying but i ...   Marakanetz

04-14-07   i guess we are "high" class stoners, but to be ho ...   Chadnliz

04-22-07   Eldartford, can i make a music recommendation? "the es ...   Audphile1


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