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03-07-01
Steve, your posts have been popping up on this subject alot ... Metaphysics
03-07-01
Inductance and capacitance are not buzz words. they are real ... Jostler3@
03-07-01
Psychology *is* a science. it's all in your mind, steven ;-) Jim
03-07-01: Stevemj
Jim - LOL you are correct, of course. My neighbor is a shrink, however, and has expressed opinions to the contrary :-)
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03-07-01
Cables are in series with any two components they connect. ... Trelja
03-07-01
In my experience, folks who do not believe there are differe ... Beemer
03-07-01
Allow me to tell you a short story, my non-audiophile friend ... Tireguy
03-07-01
The topic has to be a troll, but please consider the writer' ... Bob_bundus
03-07-01: Stevemj
Bob - Have you noticed that no one, including you, has provided even the tiniest amount of verifiable evidence that the speaker wire phenomenon is anything but psychological.
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03-07-01
Good post metaphysics; i barely know a capacitor from a dip ... Garfish
03-07-01
Mtrycraft, is that you hiding behind the moniker of stevemj ... Sean
03-07-01
They sound different because my "ears" tell me the ... Charlie4350
03-07-01
They sound different because my "ears" tell me the ... Charlie4350
03-08-01
I am going to need scientific proof that you can hear. No_money
03-08-01: Stevemj
sean - Thank you for your post. I have a story to tell you. I once had a well know audio engineering friend that was designing an RIAA stage for his new preamp. The man is a very smart designer and dedicated audiophile. He is also skeptical of all that cannot be measured.
The quality of an RIAA stage requires that the response cruve be very exact. One's ear is highly sensitive to frequency response because of the large amount of energy involved. So my friend cloistered himself in his lab with test gear and favorite records for a few days.
He added resistors, added capacitor, removed resistors, removed capacitor and so on for many hours. With each change, which is instantaneously available for evaluation, he decided good, better, worse and so on. Finally, he arrived at the perfect sound. He took what was now a geodetic structure and gave it to a tech to boil down to the essential circuit.
Much to the tech's surprise somewhere early in the testing, the growing pile of parts had become disconnect from the primary circuit. The hours of evaluation were entirely imaginary. All those many many times that he was sure that this or that change had made the sound better or worse were all fantasy.
There is nothing wrong with this designer. It is just that he is human. It is human nature that if we think we may hear a change we will.
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03-08-01
Stevemj, i am interested to know, what is your system? No_money
03-08-01
You know, i once paid a little visit to a well known and hig ... Audiogod2@
03-08-01
Interesting post....but not intended to discover whether the ... Adman@
03-08-01
This thread reminds me of the debates (turned ugly) from yea ... Lak
03-08-01
Sean good note! agree that there are differences, though th ... Adamanteus
03-08-01
I am always cynical. but 10 years ago i changed cables, i wa ... Shubertmaniac
03-08-01
Steve, i recently initiated a post on blind listening tests ... Dtittle
03-08-01
For a long time i considered that all wire was the same. my ... Panzercat
03-08-01
I have tried several different cables and used my wife as a ... Jpharris
03-08-01
It takes time to acclimate ones' self with the sonic attribu ... Sean
03-08-01
Jeez, just find a way to listen to some different cables, de ... Musicslug
03-08-01
Jpharris's post raises an interesting question: if you can ... Paulwp
03-08-01
I think you neglected to read my post, if you think there ha ... Trelja
03-08-01
I hear noteable, often stunning differences between cables a ... Drubin
03-08-01
Paulwp: a wire really can affect frequency response. in fact ... Jostler3@
03-08-01
Trelja: i've seen similar measurements, but they don't, by t ... Jostler3@
03-08-01
See what i mean? jostler, there was no need. i said i hear ... Paulwp
03-08-01
Paulwp: i agree that a boost is implausible, but i've seen f ... Jostler3@
03-09-01
Jostler, the cable length for the 12 gauge vs 18 gauge need ... Sean
03-09-01
Well, stating that psychology is science was such a reach i ... Mcne
03-09-01
Frankly, the scientists have failed this hobby badly. why d ... Redkiwi
03-09-01
Redkiwi: your ignorance is astounding. scientific theory nev ... Jostler3@
03-09-01: Stevemj
Jostler - I keep asking for science. If you know of some physical laws that say cables of the same size should sound different, apply the laws and show some numbers. I am all ears.
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03-09-01
Wow! i keep seeing words typed but i just keep hearing blah ... Mcne
03-09-01
Dirty pool, steve, you've changed the question. go back and ... Jostler3@
03-09-01
I am an audioenthusiast and also in the field of medicine. t ... Kasboot
03-09-01
Interesting you mention the radio shack cables. i have trie ... Paulwp
03-09-01
Stevemj- "i am all ears". it appears that you are ... Jcbtubes
03-10-01
Jostler3, perhaps if you read my post with a little care you ... Redkiwi
03-10-01
Kasboot: i believe stereo review did just such a test many y ... Jostler3@
03-10-01
Redkiwi: for my own edification, would you explain what is w ... Jostler3@
03-10-01: Stevemj
trelja - I would love to see your article. It must be very difficult these days to design HiFi amps and preamps when the very wire you use in them screws up the sound. Just think of all that wire in the voice coils and crossovers, its a wonder any recognizable sounds make it into the room.
It must be especially discouraging to realize that after spending hundreds of dollars on 8 feet of really cool line cord that it is connected on one end to hundreds of feet of ordinary wire that goes round and round the transformer core and on the other end to hundreds of miles of ordinary copper wire that goes eventually to the power source.
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03-11-01
Steve, your beating a dead horse here, you will not convince ... No_money
03-11-01
Both! some people ask, "it's just wire how could it ma ... Bwhite
03-11-01: Stevemj
Jostler - Come on, I started out giving people here credit for understanding that it is not fair to compare differnt size wires. Then I realised I couldn't do that and included that the wire had to be the same size for a fair comparision. I will grant that large exotic wire will be better than small cheap wire. And there is science to back it up. Small wire reduces the amps damping factor which results in changes in frequency response. This, as I'm sure you know, is because speaker impedance varies.
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