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Since making a spread sheet with my audio system prices, I have been thinking(shocked) about my total investment in cables. My total system retails at $67,000 (Digital and analog front ends included). I purchased all of it here on Audiogon so my investment is about 50%. Of that I have about 10% invested in interconnects and cables and another 10% in Power Cables (Shunyata Hydra included). That's $13,000 worth of wire. I'm starting to question whether it might be more effective to put some of this budget into acitve components. It would take forever to listen to all possible combinations, but would like to hear others experiences with relatively high end systems and cable selection. It would seem to me that the point of diminishing returns would be reached sooner with cables than with speakers and amps. Do most of you follow the 10% "rule" for cabling? How do PCs fit into this rule? Are there any super bargain cables capable of keeping up with highly resolving electronics?
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02-14-01
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04-02-03   Everybody's sytem is different and everyone has a bias (and ...   Dave_b

04-10-03   I believe the cable cost shouldn't be more than 15% of your ...   S23chang

06-20-03   Let me chime in my two bits, for what's it worth. i agree w ...   Russellrcncom

06-20-03   Russellrcncom, i agree with you. the only problem with all o ...   Muralman1

06-24-03   If you accept that malcolm hawksford's definitive work the e ...   Redkiwi

06-24-03   I don't care what one calls distortion, it is all unacceptab ...   Muralman1

06-25-03   After hearing transparent cables i see why those with alot o ...   Abex

06-28-03   Don't blame me, i really enjoy in changing cables. my curre ...   Wally_li

06-28-03   It's a system thing. like one of the other posters said, th ...   Audioengr

06-28-03   Audioengr has summarized the subject--almost. there are rat ...   Psychicanimal

06-28-03   Save yourselves some time, energy and hassle. start with the ...   Triumph

06-29-03   I would not be surprised. there are manufacturers who do all ...   Muralman1

06-30-03   I really do not think you should equate cost to performance ...   Abex

07-05-03   Amen to muralman1. dipole speakers are the path to audio ni ...   Homedesign

07-05-03   The notion of cables being 'system dependant' is utter nonse ...   Homedesign

07-06-03   Homedesign: it is too bad that you didn't apply as much log ...   Sean

07-06-03   Home design i have owned magnepan and auditioned quite a f ...   Abex

07-06-03   It was said once one upgrades their system sufficiently, the ...   Muralman1

07-06-03   Muralman: there is no way for anyone to know exactly what i ...   Sean

07-06-03   Sean, my comments were not directed at you. sorry, if i brui ...   Muralman1

07-16-03   Hi,,, wow its amazing cause i'm just about exactly at the sa ...   Mikec

07-29-03   If you're worried about system matching, spending thousands ...   Triumph

07-31-03   You have awsome power cables. there are steals and rip offs ...   Duane

10-22-03   All, my system is meager compared to what you all seem to ha ...   Geoffgarcia

11-02-03   Http://home.earthlink.net/~rogerr7/wire.htm   Tomzinho

12-06-03   Not to dredge this back from the dead, but geoffgarcia, i wa ...   Dmoffitt

12-16-04   My system is in excess of $100,000 and the interconnects tha ...   Alwyn

12-17-04   Well, here is my two cents worth on cables. i just bought a ...   Kcaudell

01-01-05   Digital cables,i compared a kimber digital cable costing in ...   Alwyn

01-01-05   At a recent audio party, we tried a half dozen digital cable ...   Muralman1

01-02-05   We've done some blind testing using digital cables and the w ...   Sean

04-10-05   My system retails for $30,600 without the cables. i'm gettin ...   Arthurp

04-18-05   My primary system retails for about $15,000; i actually have ...   Highdudgeon

04-19-05   Rules of thumb never work in high end. like the saying goes, ...   Rgs92

06-20-05   I think you could have spent 10% of that and bought custom c ...   Brizonbiovizier

06-20-05   Metaphysics, holy cow,yes you have come to your senses. my ...   Aldavis

06-30-05: Trappist
Metaphysics started this chat in 2001 and hasn't posted in 4 years. Wow, this is the longest thread i've ever seen.

Anyway, after I had great speakers ($7k silverlines) and tube amps ($6k of Cary tubes) and sources ($5k turntable, $5k CD player), then speaker and interconnects made a big difference.

I made my own cables and used for many years. Replacing my $60 home made thick gauge cables with Kimber Monocles made a massive difference. The system "breathes" now... it has much more dynamic range.

I've done much A/B testing of cheapo interconnects and Kimber silver interconnects (over $1k each retail). There is a major noticeable difference in imagining, 3D layering, frequency rolloff, etc. The silver interconnects worked far better on my tube system than copper interconnects. But, I suspect impedance matching is a factor here.

In my $29K system, $4k are cables. In my experience, the impact of cables is (in order of importance):
1. speaker cables
2. interconnects between source and preamp
3. interconnects between preamp and amp
4. power cables (minor diff)
5. digital cables (no noticeable diff so far)

DJ

Trappist  (Answers | This Thread)


07-06-05   Wow...everybody has alot to say! problem is most of it don' ...   Dave_b

07-08-05   Indeed - i have a £20k system in which i spent less than 5% ...   Brizonbiovizier

07-30-05   Check out arthur salvatore's site, high-endaudio.com. he's a ...   Atexanathome

08-27-05   Update....found some old mit mh 750 shotgun speaker cable la ...   Dave_b

09-26-05   I think cable upgrades are important, but way overhyped. i ...   Dgplo

12-18-05   There's no 10% rule. cables are used to cary a signal and it ...   Chrfor

12-18-05   this is like shopping for the best produce, cooking in all c ...   Boa2

12-18-05   Chrfor, never say never. some day you may be lucky enough to ...   Jadem6

12-18-05   well put, jd. i certainly wouldn't expect pavarotti to stre ...   Boa2

12-20-05   Go with the cables you can afford (new or used ) which sound ...   Mikesinger

12-21-05   The reason cables cause as much controversy as politics is b ...   Duane

12-21-05   Allot $100 per interconnect, $200 for your speaker cable and ...   Brizonbiovizier

12-21-05   Duane, you make some excellent points. i have no way, nor a ...   Jadem6


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