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Since making a spread sheet with my audio system prices, I have been thinking(shocked) about my total investment in cables. My total system retails at $67,000 (Digital and analog front ends included). I purchased all of it here on Audiogon so my investment is about 50%. Of that I have about 10% invested in interconnects and cables and another 10% in Power Cables (Shunyata Hydra included). That's $13,000 worth of wire. I'm starting to question whether it might be more effective to put some of this budget into acitve components. It would take forever to listen to all possible combinations, but would like to hear others experiences with relatively high end systems and cable selection. It would seem to me that the point of diminishing returns would be reached sooner with cables than with speakers and amps. Do most of you follow the 10% "rule" for cabling? How do PCs fit into this rule? Are there any super bargain cables capable of keeping up with highly resolving electronics?
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08-18-09   Asi liveline cables.... these are, i would call one of the b ...   Pani

09-11-09   Go active   Thermonicavenger

09-19-09   This is a great thread of opinions from different people. i ...   Hei83

09-27-09   I have read 15 to 17% is not uncommon for cable   Tzh21y

09-27-09   I have read that many have spent quite a bit in thier system ...   Tzh21y

09-27-09   I wouldn't even worry about power cords except to put a dece ...   Aintitgr8

10-07-09   Wow you got a lot of crazy responses. don't make this rocket ...   Bobrock

10-08-09   Recently had a chance to try morrow audio interconnects and ...   Dave_b

10-08-09   i wish i could be blown away so easily as one piece of wire ...   Shadorne

10-09-09   I would also have to agree with having some middle ground in ...   Chatta

10-09-09   I only admit this here on audiogon my friends would think im ...   Tecknik1

10-10-09   Has anyone ever used pure silver inteconnects?   Tzh21y

10-13-09   Hi guys, i am completely new to higher end audio and am just ...   Thomastrouble

10-15-09   Lol. i usually have to listen to cables for a while and the ...   Tzh21y

10-16-09   Like comfedboy, i felt that the money should pretty much all ...   Ddrave44

10-19-09   As long as you can hear the differance, fell it is worth it ...   Hevac1

10-30-09   Cables are what make the energy flow. do not skimp or you w ...   Jones4music

10-31-09   I use a diy thin ribbon sc that cost a tiny fraction of othe ...   Muralman1

11-02-09   Simple. your system is as good as the weakest link. the cabl ...   Ua100k

11-05-09   Metaphysics and pseudo-psychology are all fine and well. but ...   Llanger

11-05-09   Llanger hits on something obvious, but never the less, extre ...   Dave_b

12-01-09   Well, what are the $100 cables?   Tonywinsc

12-02-09   "yup, the $100/pair ic's were identical in performannce ...   Kijanki

12-03-09   I know this sounds nut case, but i say my system unveils cab ...   Muralman1

12-03-09   Muralman - from technical point of view dielectric constant ...   Kijanki

12-03-09   Kijanki........ wow......... you know your stuff. i don't kn ...   Muralman1

12-03-09: Kijanki
Muralman - I said I'm not sure why we need thick speaker wires. My Acoustic Zen Satori Shotguns have gauge 7 each (about 1" dia.) and I think it is overkill but I trust AZ designer Robert Lee and bought the cable. The reason for doubt is simple - why do we need very thick wire or huge damping factor if inductor in series with the woofer has about 0.1 Ohm? Inductance of the wire improves but very little so why to go to such thick wires?

I read on the DIY forum about good results with cotton ,that you mentioned, as a dielectric. Making it pretty is secondary issue but obtaining high quality copper or silver wire is difficult.

I re trimmed my Satoris with new spades and discovered that wire has inside isolated strands (9 I think) + 1 strand that is not solid but has inside again 9 very small strands. More complicated than I expected.

I understand that making cables in small quantities and exotic technologies (zero crystals - means cooling metal very slowly in hot forms so that crystals can not form) but price of some excellent wires (like Stealth Indra) are reaching price of a small car. When I hear no comments from my non-audiophile friends it means they think I'm crazy. For them spending more than $100 on an amp or $500 on speakers is a sin (or madness).

Kijanki  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


12-03-09   My speakers average .8 ohm, and dip to .3 ohm. my scs are 12 ...   Muralman1

12-10-09   In my $16k system of new and used components, all the wire a ...   Gherrera1

12-11-09   Gherrea1 - i ended up 18.6% now i have to upgrade equipment ...   Kijanki

12-12-09   Kijanki, that's the perfect excuse to upgrade. tell the wi ...   Gherrera1

12-27-09   There is no correlation between cost and performance in wire ...   Stringreen

12-27-09   I agree with kijanki... but i'm at 39%...ouch!   Joeyboynj

12-28-09   Kijanki, you say; "i re trimmed my satoris with new spa ...   Mitch2

12-28-09   Mitch - double barrel is very good and it is step above sato ...   Kijanki

12-28-09   Stringreen makes a good point about no correlation between c ...   Bobrock

12-29-09   There is also the question of the different parameters that ...   Jnk

12-29-09   My friend bought honda civic and he just loves this car. he ...   Kijanki

12-29-09   I find a greater difference between cables and powercords th ...   Shellie

12-31-09   Just thought i'd check and see what's up after "droppin ...   Sean

02-09-10   I make my own speaker cables using the same ingrediants as k ...   Vernneal

09-03-10   Ooh, i think it`s hard, this cable quest! i didn`t now that ...   Fjoggedelic

09-08-10   Psychicanimal says: my system is resolving enough that anyo ...   Irvrobinson

09-10-10   I've got about $5000 msrp worth of cable in a system worth a ...   Gopher

09-15-10   I agree with gopher. cables have made a noticeable differen ...   Phillipbenson

09-15-10   Hi , its all relative, i have picked out expensive cables in ...   Chrissain

09-16-10   Of course, we all know that there are ways to reduce the cos ...   Phillipbenson

11-15-10   I have gone throught trying alot of cabling in my systems th ...   Jamo1

11-15-10   "my thinking is that if you want to hear what the recor ...   Kijanki

11-15-10   Hi kijanki, my point was that the cables used in a studio sh ...   Jamo1


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