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10-02-07
Indeed, given the conviction with which many people talk abo ... Shadorne
10-02-07
Mr. randi's challenge reminds me of when people claimed you ... Meagan02
10-02-07
Oddly, my attempt to post something very similar about mr. r ... Edesilva
10-02-07: Peter_s
Meagan02 - your answer doesn't answer the question of why someone won't step up and win the million dollars. I just did a listening test last night with a couple of buddies - Purist speaker cables (Elementa Advance, not their priciest) against a couple cheaper mail order cables (no need to mention, they are decent cables). Everyone in the room felt that the Purist cables represented a significant improvement (all 3 of us). On a resolving system, this should be quite differentiable. What are the rules of his challenge? Who is the jury. A million bucks can buy a lot of audio equipment, and the contestant doesn't risk anything besides their time (is this true?). So, somebody with time - step up!!!
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10-02-07
I feel that it would depend a lot upon the system used in th ... 4est
10-02-07
Peter s, it's not my place, nor yours, to answer the questi ... Meagan02
10-02-07
More info on the challenge: http://www.audioasylum.com/a ... Sherod
10-02-07: Peter_s
Meagan02 - I can't agree with your assessment. Randi may be trying to embarrass the hotshots, but by making this an open challenge, whatever vendetta he may have has been diluted and the question is now open to all. I'm not saying that someone "should" take the time out of their personal lives to do this - that they are bad if they didn't - it is anyone's choice. But his challenge lends itself to the scientific method. Why should we avoid such an experiment? And I think we do have something to lose, and to gain. If you really believe there is a 50/50 chance that the difference could be discerned - we have to lose an unsupported myth and we have to gain some truth. If 50/50 were the case, the truth would be that some people are dillusional and/or value status over their stated goal (enjoy the music). And the truth would benefit most people, that they don't have to spend that kind of money to get good sound. If it 80/20, or some other statistically significant combination, than the truth is otherwise. My experience tells me that this is the case, though I've never heard a $7,000 cable before!
When you ask who cares - I assume you mean who cares about the outcome of the test, not who cares about the truth. I guess my concern is whether such an experiment could be run in a convincing way - and I truly believe that it could - but would require some significant planning and design. With that kind of money, it would be a good project for a grad student in statistics and the scientific method!
Cheers, Peter
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10-02-07
4est, have you contacted randi about the million dollars, ... Shadorne
10-02-07
Why pick on pear cables? they're a small outfit. there are o ... Rja
10-03-07
Open challenge? not. sounds like more of a media stunt than ... Gdoodle
10-03-07
Peter s:good point. i assume it's not as simple as it seems ... Gregm
10-03-07
The earth is flat i tell you!! i've seen it with mine own e ... Celtic66
10-03-07
surely that suggests most reviewers and any cable manufactu ... Shadorne
10-04-07
Why did i read through this? i will give you $1,000,000 if ... Bjesien
10-05-07
Bjesien, because your papua new guinea fertility statue nee ... Shadorne
10-07-07
The exclusion of people without a "media presence" ... Machani
10-08-07
then why do you think john atkinson and dave clark do not t ... Shadorne
10-08-07
There are many things about this challenge that make it diff ... Davemitchell
10-08-07
Shardone: "then why do you think john atkinson and dave ... Machani
10-08-07
Dave, no i have not tried solid core so my experience is li ... Shadorne
10-09-07
Shadorne, i think you are selling your ears short. without ... Davemitchell
10-09-07
Dave, you may be correct. i see that monster now sells soli ... Shadorne
10-09-07
Cool site,i booked it next to my dead site so i dont have to ... Usblues
10-09-07
Shadorne, just as some manufacturers may over-hype their pr ... Davemitchell
10-09-07
I am holding the fertility tweak. cough...cough...cough...c ... Bjesien
10-09-07
i would believe if a reviewer would step up to the plate an ... Shadorne
10-10-07
well, at least that's a start. Davemitchell
10-10-07
If cables make no difference then why is mr. flat earth not ... Leica_man
10-10-07
Lm, do you mean to say that because they have selected a we ... Shadorne
10-10-07
Shadorne, i'd try some of the entry level audioquest like ty ... Davemitchell
10-10-07
Shadorne, what i am suggesting is that some "high-end&q ... Leica_man
10-10-07
Lm, good point. that is the trouble with any test...it does ... Shadorne
10-10-07
perhaps the idea is to show that a rave review may not be a ... Leica_man
10-17-07
I was recently a sucker for the cable hype, but was enlighte ... Redwoodgarden
10-17-07
i was recently a sucker for the cable hype yet another nail ... Leica_man
10-17-07
Or yet another dollar in the pocket of scammers... Redwoodgarden
10-17-07
Redwoodgarden, i'm glad we have you and others like you to p ... Leica_man
10-17-07
I would never go back to using monster cable. it is too expe ... Muralman1
10-18-07
Leica man, i envy your articulatory satire skills; however, ... Redwoodgarden
10-18-07
So this is heating up. apparently stereophile's mickey frem ... Dchase
10-18-07
Nice try redwoodgarden- in my original blog to this thread i ... Leica_man
10-19-07
I've never seen someone get so upset about trying to rationa ... Redwoodgarden
10-19-07
I am not upset but you have no idea how much a cable can con ... Leica_man
10-19-07
an outstanding analogy. Tvad
10-19-07
The tesla shields the signal from rfi and emi. what they hav ... Muralman1
10-19-07
I am willing to concede to the winner of the randi challenge ... Redwoodgarden
10-19-07
lm and redwood, i believe lm might be using "active c ... Shadorne
10-20-07
Dave clark of positive feedback says of pear anjou cables, ... Shadorne
10-20-07
Leica man, i see your point that the testee should be able t ... Tomcy6
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