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  A butt-load spent in cables - how much improvemt?
We spend quite a bit in cables for our systems, I'm wondering how much overall sonic improvement we get from cables? Let me explain my thought.....

I'm very happy with my current cabling (IC's, PC's, digital coax, and speaker cables). I was thinking about removing ALL of them and putting in ALL the original stuff I started with (stock PC's, cheap Monster IC's, Monster digital coax, and Monster XP copper speaker wire).

Then listening to the system to see how much degradation in sound I would have. Has anybody else thought of doing this or has done this?
Vman71  (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

08-07-07
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08-07-07   Vman, just do it. no one will laugh.   Dpac996

08-07-07   Depends, as always, on the system. on my recent interim sys ...   Bar81

08-07-07   me too...i use stock pc's, stock balanced xlr ic's and mons ...   Shadorne

08-07-07   Great setup. those alcoves for the speakers/sub might pose s ...   Shadorne

08-07-07   The "how-much-improvement" depends---lots of mone ...   Avguygeorge

08-07-07   The results of every double-blind cabling test ever performe ...   Jimmdavis

08-07-07   Bring your speakers out more. you have the space. i'm certai ...   Oregon

08-07-07   You never need apologize for conducting your own back-to-b ...   Mlsstl

08-07-07   I have found that it is much easier to hear a downgrade in p ...   Fatparrot

08-07-07   I would not want to be forced to do a blind test. i've spe ...   Jjmali

08-07-07   Fatparrot, i also hear a marked difference when downgradi ...   Sherod

08-08-07   I wouldn't dream of going back from my mit evos. saved a goo ...   Psacanli

08-08-07   Jimmdavis - yup.   Jeff_jones

08-08-07: Seasoned
Keep in mind that while some listeners can hear a big difference in cables, others can't. I wonder if those who can't don't have their systems set up correctly, with respect to speaker placement etc. Also, some systems are not fussy about cables...it's all sort of relative.

I once put a virtual dynamics power cord (Power 3) on my CD player and everything changed, including the bass became too strong; even my wife commented on it and she usually cannot hear any differences in upgrades. I ended up using a virtual dynamics nite power cord on the player and love it. Then one day, the cord developed an open circuit while I reconfigured it and I was forced to use the stock cord while the nite was sent back to Canada. Wow, I was back to mediocrity.

Everyone and every system is different. If you switch back to your original cables and do not notice anything, by all means sell your expensive cables and invest in more music. It's all a matter of opportunity cost...good luck and let us know how you make out.

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08-08-07   It seems to me that cable performance is non price hierarchi ...   Mothra

08-08-07   Seasoned wrote (regarding audibility of cables): "i won ...   Mlsstl

08-08-07   Good point mlsstl - my choice is not to purchase any expensi ...   Joeylawn36111

08-08-07   I think that is a great response mlsstl. clean power, rf rej ...   Mothra

08-08-07   Mothra - yeah, like here in montgomery, al. high here was 10 ...   Joeylawn36111

08-08-07   My best listening on my system is usually after 11:00 p.m. o ...   Sherod

08-09-07   I agree fully with shardone that a good properly matched gea ...   Dazzdax

08-09-07   In a well-matched, ultra-low-power, single-tube, single-driv ...   Jimmdavis

08-09-07   I believe the expression is "...a boat load of money... ...   Bruce_1

08-09-07   Jim davis has the right of it. however if you spend more and ...   Bin

08-10-07   I wonder what group of people participated in the double-bli ...   Wireless200

08-11-07   I don't think anyone will argue, for instance, that capacita ...   Mothra

08-12-07   Bin, i would go one step further and contend not only that t ...   Jimmdavis

08-12-07   I have a system consisting of speakers with extreme revealin ...   Muralman1

08-13-07   Well, i think it s pretty well documented that dbt's are unr ...   Mothra

08-13-07   Muralman1 makes sense as those 9k cables are basically fundi ...   Dpac996

08-13-07   Mothra, i'm sincerely curious as to what you mean by "w ...   Jimmdavis

08-13-07   No cables, no components, no stereo systems are neutral. a ...   Mrtennis

08-13-07   Some stereo systems, because of their components, are more n ...   Muralman1

08-14-07   Jim, sigh. this is why i stopped posting at rec.audio.high- ...   Mothra

08-14-07   Mothra, appreciate the intelligent response, specifically t ...   Jimmdavis

08-14-07   No one hearing my system first can tell me a blind test is n ...   Muralman1

08-14-07   Thanks for the response jim. fwiw , unless i inherit cables ...   Mothra

08-14-07   Slow train coming for me....cabling was the last "upgra ...   Jb8312

08-14-07   Cables may be the last opportunity to voice a stereo system ...   Mrtennis

08-14-07   "most components in current production are relatively ...   Sherod

08-15-07   This is an eternal question there is no answer to. one side ...   David12

08-18-07   Well said, david12, this thread is just another of the " ...   Tbg

08-18-07   "there can be no difference" versus "i hear a ...   Joeylawn36111

08-18-07   Joeylawn, that is another meaningful dimension. ultimately, ...   Tbg

08-18-07   words of wisdom. ***   Psychicanimal

08-18-07   Gee thanks psycicanimal. :)   Muralman1

10-17-07   I read the hifi+ review that david12 mentions. it seemed to ...   Regalma1

10-18-07   Regalmal - "buy tube equipment precisely because it dis ...   Jeff_jones

10-18-07   No insult intended to tube folks. i have a couple of pieces ...   Regalma1

10-18-07   Regalma1, on snow i prefer red to see the slope changes more ...   Tbg

10-18-07   Just enough that i would 'not' even 'consider' removing any ...   Psacanli

10-18-07   Regalmal - "no insult intended" . none was taken. ...   Jeff_jones

10-19-07   Thg, what ss equipment have you found? i need a new preamp.   Regalma1

10-19-07   I guess tube and wire tasters are relieved to hear signal mo ...   Muralman1

10-19-07   The improvement is there, if all other links in the audio ch ...   Jafant

10-20-07   $20,000 more spent on cables will give you... 4-5% higher pe ...   Dazzdax

10-20-07   $20k spent on cables may give you 4%-5% higher performance ...   Audiofeil

10-20-07   How does anybody ascertain the percentage increase or decrea ...   Tbg

10-20-07   Tbg -ditto   Muralman1

10-20-07   Hi ted, i'm not saying all cables sound the same. cables cou ...   Dazzdax

10-20-07   Dazzdax. i certainly would not go so far as to say cables ca ...   Tbg

10-20-07   Audiofeil states: "cables are system and listener d ...   Sherod

10-21-07   perhaps just an issue of semantics, but a cable is not an a ...   Mlsstl

10-21-07   Mlsstl, it is semantics. since some cables sound better they ...   Tbg

10-22-07   A cable does not sound better or worse in one stereo system ...   Mrtennis

10-22-07   Again, this is semantics. what we learn is which cable sound ...   Tbg


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