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04-17-03
As we go trolling along... my "truth" is based on ... Gs5556
04-17-03
Agree with gs5556. i handled it a long time ago. what you he ... Twl
04-17-03
The truth is that the writer of this article don't have a pa ... Edle
04-17-03
What is this redbeard's problem? who cares about thes 'troll ... Elizabeth
04-17-03
I didn't think so. audioholics anonymous anyone? Redbeard
04-17-03
The sub-linked article is a kill: "as a rule of thumb, ... Tsouthworth
04-17-03
Any article posted under a title such as 'the truth about in ... Calanctus
04-17-03
An interesting site, redbeard. as you can see, it is unlikel ... Bomarc
04-17-03
My high school physics teacher once told us that tire width ... Gundam91
04-17-03
Here is another page from the same site: http://www.audioho ... Redbeard
04-17-03
.....good posts gs5556, twl and all who see this as a troll- ... Garfish
04-17-03
Re: http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/inte ... Redbeard
04-17-03
I beg to differ, redbeard. may people perform double blind t ... Sherod
04-17-03
As i have posted numerous times before, i have done literall ... Twl
04-17-03
We know that dbts are pointless, worthless, and "prove& ... Dopogue
04-17-03
after so many things sayed what to say more? i subscribe to ... David_d
04-17-03
Dopogue - why? twl claims he can deliver repeatable results ... Mprime
04-17-03
If you think that some wires sound better than others, then ... Eldartford
04-17-03
I'll mention another thing. when we were doing this testing, ... Twl
04-17-03
I went double blind once. i was using two hands. i was told ... Makersmark
04-17-03
very easy to tell which cable sounds best when you change i ... Sogood51
04-17-03
Redbeard, when all is said and done, some folks will still w ... Pbb
04-17-03
Interconnects can cause shifts in microdynamics which will r ... Danvetc
04-18-03: Dandreescu
This topic looks very interesting. I have been lurking on Audiogon for about a year, learning a lot about hi-fi and enjoying one of the most elevated web site on the net...I don't want to convince anybody other then me if expensive cables are worth it, as I am the only responsibile to pay the bills... I do have decent wires[nordost, analysis plus] and I was looking into buying some cardas gold reference ICs[ I am telling you that so nobody can say that I am one of those folks in denail about cables just because they can't afford to buy some good wire]so I stumbled on some the well-known-to-some-of-you web sites, sustaining that blind studies failed consistently to differentiate various wires and the placebo effect is responsible for the percived heard differences...To my surprise, major audiophilic sites banned any blind study[ the only one than can completely destroy the placebo argument] . I never saw a blin study in a audio magazine, and lots of folks on the net,otherwise nice and refined, became hostile or sarcastic dealing with this subject[ somehow understendable, as it would be ridiculous to invest thousands in wires that would not be differentiated compared blind with Sam Telig's 20 bucks ARs and they may take the blind study as a personal challange of their audio skills...]
I belived that I felt a little difference while swaping my cables, but I am not so sure anymore that is was real because:
-placebo effect may be very strong.One out of three folks with major deppresion wil get much better taking a sugar pill belived to be the medicine...It is not impossible that the often subtle differences between cables are due to our different expectations...A minor change in the excitation threshold of cohlear cells or more likely less cortical inhibition in the areas surrounding the brain's audio reception zone , as Joe is in awe of his new audio jewlery, could not alter the final sensation?
-there are reports of folks[ even audiogoners]with revealing rigs and demonstated integrity that are downsizeing to decent entry level cables, as the exotic ones failed to make a difference.
-pro reviewers-see a recent Stereophile advocating the use of a good gold plated RCA and high purity stranded copper as "All that you'll need".
So I decided to try a single blind test. I'll order two philips 963 sacds[ and I'll return the 2nd after..],ask my wife to hook them with the cables to be studied to my amp, put identical cd copies and hit the play buttons 5 seconds appart. I'll change the cables in no time, using the amp's remote and I'll write the impressions . Some friends will be invited to increase the number of measurements[ beers given after...] Do you have any suggestions ?
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04-18-03
Pbb and danvetc, i can only report my experiences. as probab ... Twl
04-18-03
The person who wrote and those who agree with the writer sim ... S23chang
04-18-03
Dandreescu: the problem with your approach, if i understand ... Bomarc
04-18-03
I find it strange that people claim there is no difference b ... Dennis_the_menace
04-18-03
Bomarc, thanks for your response. i am reading a lot of heal ... dandreescu@
04-18-03
The best way is to live with the component under test for th ... Bluefin
04-18-03
Dandr: unfortunately for audio comparisons, our brains are w ... Bomarc
04-18-03
I have been sitting on the fence for a while now when debati ... Troutki
04-18-03
I do believe that interconnects affect the sound, but the ef ... Redbeard
04-18-03
Oh, one more point. it is critical to know how much of a ch ... Redbeard
04-18-03
It seems that people will deny that wires make a difference ... Seandtaylor99
04-18-03
Actually, most of people can tell the difference between cab ... Bluefin
04-18-03
Bluefin, our audio memory for detailed musical presentation ... Dandreescu
04-18-03
Dandreescu, the point is not to remember which cable has ti ... Bluefin
04-18-03
Dandr: for more info on good listening tests, check out: h ... Bomarc
04-19-03
Okay folks. i am kind of new here--oris that "hear&quo ... Unclejeff
04-25-03
Wires make difference on components that are not properly de ... Marakanetz
04-25-03
I'm an electronics technician, not an engineer. but i do wor ... Elmuncy
04-26-03
What? you mean the emperor has no clothes? Danvetc
04-26-03
Try listening to (and with) your ears rather than to your fr ... Dopogue
04-26-03
As long as any of you simply "look at" and "m ... Twl
04-26-03
Say it ain't so joe. Pbb
04-26-03
Twl: i suggest you stop railing about science until you make ... Bomarc
04-26-03
Amen, brother bomarc. btw, twl, i care as much as anyone he ... Danvetc
04-27-03
While i believe their are some great cables out there that c ... Darrylhifi
04-28-03
As an electronic design engineer, and a fervent believer in ... Seandtaylor99
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