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  Pros and Cons of "Staying with" Analog and Vinyl
After having various turntables over the last 40 years, I am seriously considering getting out of analog. The "vinylists" argue that analog playback sounds more natural, musical, and provides more of an emotional response. I have experienced this feeling several times while listening to my modest vinyl collection, and tend to agree....until I begin hearing pops, clicks, surface noise. I keep my vinyl generally clean and protected

However, after listening to the 40th anniversay edition of Jethro Tull's "Aqualung" I am more convinced that analog is just not worth the time, money and, maintenance. The dynamics on new Aqualung are superb and there seems to be much more detail to what I remember of the Mobile Fidelity remastered recording

I have a modest analog set-up Rega P3-24 with their upgraded PS and the Dynavector 10X5 MC. I was on the verge of upgrading to the new Rega RP-6 which includes a newly design PS, and a choice of color plinths. Even with a generous trade-in value offered by the dealer, I would still be putting in about $1300 + which would get me into the Dynavector DV 20MKII ( above their 10X5.)

I personally don't see the value regardless of the sonic qualitative edge of analog. Maybe, the money could be spent elsewhere or not at all. BTW, I am not getting into computer audio, and am STILL not convinced that a BASIC DAC will bring me closer to analog sound quality. Members have recommended Peachtree's DACIT, and even the supposedly new and improved Musical Fidelity V-DAC II. I have a Rega Apollo player. A great sounding player, but it has its flaws.

Therefore, I would like to hear the pros and cons of staying with analog....or just dumping it. Thanks
Sunnyjim  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

12-30-11
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12-30-11   I have adopted digital wholeheartedly. as you mention, the n ...   Rlwainwright

12-30-11   If you have a decent sized vinyl collection in decent condit ...   Unsound

12-30-11   Stay where you are, and don't invest another dime in analog. ...   Buconero117

12-30-11   This is a hobby, if there are aspects you have tired of, mov ...   Glenfihi

12-30-11   You answered your own question in that vinyl has the inherit ...   Sid42

12-30-11   So audiophile of everyone to focus on the aspects of sound q ...   Viridian

12-30-11   I have gotten out of vinyl just to get right back into. i ha ...   Thesoundhouse

12-30-11   Since i have a large collection of vinyl (and also digital m ...   Plato

12-30-11   Digital is the best tweek for your turntable. listen to digi ...   Thesoundhouse

12-30-11   "until i begin hearing pops, clicks, surface noise" ...   Rok2id

12-30-11   I have to say the small amount of surface noise is not a pro ...   Elizabeth

12-30-11   I agree with elizabeth. also, i probably hear clicks, etc i ...   Mt10425

12-30-11   "also, i probably hear clicks, etc in only about 5% of ...   Rok2id

12-30-11   there is another option. over the past 10 years i've conver ...   Mlsstl

12-30-11   Great point and a more than viable answer. you still have to ...   Viridian

12-30-11   Others have covered most of the questions you have to decide ...   Dougdeacon

12-30-11   Human hearing was developed over many econs to ensure surviv ...   Rok2id

12-30-11   why describe what you hear and prefer in emotionally neutral ...   Dougdeacon

12-30-11   Thesoundhouse is right on the money! i've had the same exper ...   Dhcod

12-30-11   It's not really about "superiority" for me. my ar ...   Mt10425

12-30-11   " if you are focusing on the noise you aren't focusing ...   Rok2id

12-30-11   The main advantage that there's no digital resolution that w ...   Marakanetz

12-30-11   A lot of great points on both sides so i will keep mine shor ...   Pops

12-30-11   I see a lot of systems with no analog. but few if any, th ...   Rok2id

12-30-11   I see i fed this beast of yours (rok). the last time my cd ...   Mt10425

12-30-11   I said not one word about the superiority of analog. a quick ...   Viridian

12-30-11   Viridian-the hero   Mt10425

12-30-11   i always find it interesting that some people can come into ...   Mlsstl

12-30-11   You can raise alot of money selling your vinyl...let me know ...   Tbromgard

12-30-11   So much talk about obvious things. i don't think that the op ...   Inna

12-30-11   Hey inna, what is a "true audiophile"? or for tha ...   Mt10425

12-30-11   Analog is much better more air,deeper stage,more depth.if yo ...   Ebm

12-30-11   Rok2id, i respect your right to prefer digital and to revile ...   Lewm

12-30-11   The debate never ends and gets sillier all the time. they ar ...   Hoopster

12-30-11   Lewm: i agree with your statement about the early cds and th ...   Rok2id

12-30-11   Fwiw, i bought 15 lps today all in excellent condition for $ ...   Hoopster

12-30-11   I went looking for my cd of dark side of the moon. turns ou ...   Rbirke

12-30-11   Rokdude-honestly it's not an us vs them situation. you seem ...   Mt10425

12-30-11   It isn't "us vs them," it's both. for me, vinyl is ...   Kevvwill

12-30-11   Mt10425 we have no disagreement   Rok2id

12-30-11   Kevvwill often while browsing on amazon or some other site ...   Rok2id

12-30-11   And to speak to your value analysis, it's a fascinating poin ...   Kevvwill

12-30-11   Rok-come on by and i'll play you a couple of records.   Mt10425

12-30-11: Sunnyjim
I want to thank everyone who responded, especially those who dedicated the extra time and paragraphs to the thread. Every response provided me with perspective as to how to proceed

LET ME CLARIFY, that noise in itself does not bother me as much AS WHAT IT INDICATES".... which says you should have taken better care of the records, or need to clean the vinyl with a higher quality liquid and/or a record cleaning machine. I did to a degree: VPI record sleeves, the cheapo Audio Advisor record cleaner (for awhile), and a few spray and clean concoctions. The collection totals about 60LP's, I have a few classical LP's that date from 1976 given to me as a gift by co-workers. The Deutsh-Gramophone LP of E. Power Biggs, playing Bach is excellent on every level and without noise

I have some LP's that were sourced at the local record hut, and were in fair condition when I acquired them. I now replace noisy or worn LP's with their (hopefully) remastered equivalent, and some with Japanese pressings which overall are very good, but not astounding.

The remastered disc version of Hall and Oats "Silver Album" is excellent, and not bright or edgy as some tracks on the original LP. Whereas, the LP of the Byrd's "Mr Tamborine Man" is untouchable in the emotion it conveys despite its pops and clicks. As I mentioned in the body of the thread, I recently played the new 40th anniversary edition CD of the Tull's "Aqualung".... and, yes it is missing something of the emotional guts of the Mobile Fidelity vinyl LP, but the dynamics, punch, power, and clarity of the disc is astounding.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!!! JIM.

Sunnyjim  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)


12-30-11   Rok, baby. if you really listen to music first and foremost ...   Lewm

12-30-11   For people that primarily listen to pre 1990 music, it makes ...   Jaxwired

12-30-11   i'm one...before getting back into analog i cited that as a ...   Rockitman

12-30-11   I came to the conclusion after almost two decades of vinyl-d ...   Jax2

12-30-11   If you don't get the analog thing or don't want to i'd say s ...   Sonofjim

12-31-11   Quote "i see a lot of systems with no analog. but few i ...   Has2be

12-31-11   To this very day i still thank jax2 for his decision.   Mt10425

12-31-11   I agree with viridian, the problem for me is availabilty. if ...   David12

12-31-11   The most important thing you said was the you do not see (he ...   Chayro

12-31-11   I am happy with both mediums.i have vinyl days and digital d ...   Playpen

12-31-11   I have met fishermen who only flyfish and tie their own flie ...   Peterayer

12-31-11   My experience is similar to david12, some of the best classi ...   Rotarius

12-31-11   I suspect one's preference may be influenced by the system t ...   Apbiii

12-31-11   "as for the pops etc. do you freak out at a concert if ...   Rok2id

12-31-11   I can only listen to so much "old music" so i have ...   Duaneadam

12-31-11   Chayro hits the nail on the head with a very insightful comm ...   Kevvwill

12-31-11   As we all know, the key to vinyl is clean, clean, clean. la ...   Gmardinly

01-01-12   sunnyjim , your at the same point i was a few years back. ...   Tmsorosk

12-31-11   Vinyl noise tends to be music genre-specific and/or equipmen ...   Dearing

01-01-12   Mlsstl, i've found vinyl recorded to digital really close to ...   Mmakshak

01-01-12   I think what hoopster was hinting at with suspended subchasi ...   Mmakshak

01-01-12   I enjoy vinyl so much more than cds (cds are nice for the ca ...   Tbromgard

01-01-12   I wasn't going to post in this thread as it's all been said ...   Timrhu

01-01-12   Why would anyone care if sunnyjim decides to listen to only ...   Dan_ed

01-01-12   Well, perhaps not if just one individual decides to listen t ...   Peterayer

01-01-12   Why not keep both - digital and analog? having an analog and ...   Decibell

01-02-12   I don't know peter. a few decades ago the whole world shifte ...   Dan_ed

01-02-12   Just my 02c when cds first came out, i really hated them. ...   Dividebytube


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