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My pick would be the grace f9e. Mofimadness
There is a lot of them. the audio technica at 15sa or 20ss. ... Griffithds
Mofo and griff...., are most (all?) of the carties you liste ... Bifwynne
Bifwynne, none mentioned are in production today. all can b ... Griffithds
Griff..., thanks -- been there and done that. i've owned th ... Bifwynne
B&o mmc-2. Clio09
Dear bifwynne: imho yes. mine coming from there but if you w ... Rauliruegas
Dear griffithds: ++++ " it's depressing to know that i ... Rauliruegas
Bifwynne, i agree with rauliruegas. the ss retip did improve ... Griffithds
Hi raul, +++++"that's what i found out 4-5 years ago a ... Griffithds
Signet tk7su Audiofeil
I have maybe a hundred different ones, and two stand out. on ... Mosin
Audiofiel, +1+1+1 Griffithds
I'd be very interested in hearing from someone who has a vir ... Fleib
Dear d, it surprises me that you start a thread about mm/mi ... Halcro
I don't think anyone has really understood the question post ... Halcro
Dear halcro, no other agenda here as to separate the two thr ... Dertonarm
To accompany my list.....I think I need to describe the state of high-end audio in Britain and Australia in the late 70s and early 80s.
Here in Australia, Britain was the 'heart' of the 'renaissance' in high-end audio.
The States were considered 'crude' and unsophisticated with no credible audio press....hence the need for 'underground' magazines like The Absolute Sound and Stereophile although we never saw or heard of Stereophile till much further into the 80s.
Ampzilla and Son of Ampzilla were about all we heard of America and a little later......Audio Research and Conrad Johnson.
There was a 'known' British sound to speakers....and an American 'sound' to speakers.......and the American was very much derided.
The British mainstream audio press (Hi-Fi Answers and What Hi-Fi) provided unbridled criticism and intelligent discussion into all things high-end whilst the names.....Linn, Naim, Rega, Wharfdale, Celestion, Gale, Kef, Quad, Mitchell etc held sway with all audiophiles and through their connections with cartridge and arm manufacturers in Japan.......the Japanese audio industry was interwoven with the high-end British.
Consequently......cartridges (most made in Japan) were very prominent in the British press whereas I can recall little discussion of those when we eventually were able to get our hands on The Absolute Sound issues.
With this history in mind, my list of Classic MM cartridges would be:-
Signet TK-3 series
Signet TK-5 series
Signet TK-7 series
Halcro (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
Mentioned was the at-95. this happens to be the same cartrid ... Mosin
I certainly agree that there is a good number of very good p ... Dertonarm
Dear d, do you mean.......be 'faithful' to a cartridge for t ... Halcro
Hi mosin, **mentioned was the at-95. this happens to be the ... Fleib
Hi halcro, i'm curious about your list, specifically the dec ... Fleib
Agree with halcro. i could live with the signet tk7su forev ... Audiofeil
Regards, dertonarm. the shure ml-140he might be considered a ... Timeltel
Audiofeil, do you think the signet would mate well with a vp ... Bifwynne
Not sure but those arms historically have problems with high ... Audiofeil
Dear mosin: it is " weird " that with 100+ mm/mi c ... Rauliruegas
Dear mosin: imho the 95sa version well matches tonearm and t ... Rauliruegas
Dear halcro: +++++ " it is asking for a 'list' of 'clas ... Rauliruegas
I am not able to understand the 'sense' of such list of cart ... Nandric
Hi raul' +++"really influenced the audio world'+++ thi ... Griffithds
Dear griffithds: agree, that's why i'm questioning halcro th ... Rauliruegas
Regards, nandric: one purpose such reports serve is to reint ... Timeltel
Anyone care to recommend mm and mi cartridges which have gre ... Jeremy72
The Decca London is the only cartridge on my list which have neither owned nor heard.......and it's position at the top is certainly not meant to indicate any ranking.
The London had already achieved near legendary status in the late 70s with George Hadcock purportedly having designed his eponymous GH-228 unipivot arm specifically for it?
Together with the myth that no two samples sounded the same and a near continuous 40 year production history......it deserves to be on the list.
I agree with Timeltel that no list would be complete without the venerable Shure V15/III although again, I've neither heard nor owned.
Halcro (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
Jeremy, it is not my experience that mcs possess any of thos ... Halcro
Halcro, yes you are right of course for the most part and i ... Jeremy72
London Reference MI and Soundsmith Sussurro MI, the later one MC compatible.
Both are a class of its own and do provide sonic excellence.
best & fun only
Thuchan (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
Dear halcro, dear timetel, actually i wanted to have this th ... Dertonarm
Dear professor, no questions except one. the question mark s ... Nandric
Dear daniel, i understand that you wanted to 'cut -away' som ... Nandric
Dear Nikola, I didn't want to ask any specific person about this - I wanted to get the information/recommendation as eclectic as possible.
There was no reason to direct the question to someone in specific.
Furthermore - I'd rather intended to direct certain contributions away from the "Greatest MCs ever"-thread.
Certainly no intentions to hi-jack any posts from Raul's "who needs MM"-thread - and I can't see any danger for this either, as that thread long developed in certain directions.
I do see my question above going to a different direction anyway.
So far I am still certainly not in the fan-group for MMs and MIs.
I had many encounters with them and I liked quite a few.
But I draw a strict line between "I like it" and "I can live with it".
There is a wide gap between that camps.
I am very interested in the technical aspects of moving magnet cartridges - especially so, as I believe that the topic isn't fully explored yet.
When power restriction was an important point in PA audio, speaker development saw quantum leaps. When the "power issue" was solved in the late 1960s speaker development concentrated on reducing magnet/frame weight.
I see a similar analogy in MM design history.
There is no need/market call today for top-flight (= high priced) MMs - and there isn't since a long time.
Aside from Grado and Decca/London the high-price department is LOMC only.
Would really like to see a few gifted designers to return to an old "field" and trying to bring in an all new harvest of previously unknown quality from MM.
I am sure, that the very best possible MM hasn't been designed yet.
Dertonarm (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
Dear daniel, damn it! from all my german friends only syntax ... Nandric
Dear nandric, of course, and without question mark. :-) be ... Thuchan
Dear professor, the nomenclature of many mm brands is not ea ... Nandric
Regards, nandric: afaik, with the m3xx (square) carts, outpu ... Timeltel
Clearaudio maestro. Triode
Dear professor, thanks for your kindness and technical expla ... Nandric
Regards, nandric: it gets even worse. in 1980, acutex offere ... Timeltel
Dear timeltel, unfortunately sun-tzu ( or sun-zi ) died abou ... Dertonarm
Dear timeltel, having followed the recommendation going for ... Thuchan
I also second daniel's appreciation of the professor's contr ... Halcro
Dear professor, there are some 'things' which go togehter. t ... Nandric
I just ordered one of these: cartridge-and-stylus-original ... Frogman
Regards, Frogman: IMHO, nice catch. I believe you'll find the 412 has a better grip on the bass than does the very nice Azden YM-P50VL. Mids will be presented with good clarity and the HF's detailed without being worrysome.
BTW Frogman, outcome dependent, either this enthusiast paid too much or another not enough, but recently I was fortunate(?) enough to obtain from your referenced vendor a NOS LPM 415STR. Out of consideration for our thread-host, in a week or two and with a better acquaintance with these carts it might perhaps be appropriate if we continue the discussion of Acutex taxonomy over on Raul's epic thread?
In a sideways recognition of certian comments made above, Nikola would you bring along more of your outrageous Balkan exaggeration and Thuchan, of course, your delicious double entendres? And Henry, you are suspected of hyperbole-- I looked several times and there's no evidence of another room behind my speakers.
Apologies, Herr Tonarm. You've been very patient.
Timeltel (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
Thanks, timeltel. agreed, let's touch base again in a couple ... Frogman
Dear professor, 'outrageous balkan exaggerarion'? if you mea ... Nandric
Dear timeltel: i will like to see you there because i'm test ... Rauliruegas
Allow me to chime in and share my experience with the ruby r ... Jwglista
I was thinking just the same thing the other day a comprehen ... Tubed1
I have no list but an image of my humidor... containing my f ... Thuchan
Tubed1, that is a sweet list. Acman3
Yes, acman3 yet one must approach the quest for ancient mm/m ... Tubed1
Hi tubed1, you are right. 'just half of the fun' is, alas, n ... Nandric
Greedy no way! "greed is good" to some extent? i ... Tubed1
How come no mention of the pickering xsv 3000 and 5000 serie ... Rogercr
I found the sound smith cl rebuild for the virtuoso wood to ... Rccc
Ok. here's a vote for the pickering xsvs. i've got both a ... Lewm