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  Uni-Protractor Set tonearm alignment
Looks like Dertonarm has put his money where his mouth is and designed the ultimate universal alignment tractor.

Early days, It would be great to hear from someone who has used it and compared to Mint, Feikert etc.

Given its high price, it will need to justify its superiority against all others. It does look in another league compared to those other alignemt devices

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?anlgtnrm&1303145487&/Uni-Protractor-Set-tonearm-ali
Downunder  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

02-18-11
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04-15-11   I enjoyed your review. for me, i want to do a better job fi ...   Jazzgene

04-15-11   Dear jazzgene, good point here ! on black colored finish ton ...   Dertonarm

04-15-11   I am very happy that you can change the color of the reticul ...   Jazzgene

04-15-11   Here is my review of the uni-pro. received it in great shape ...   Genesis168

04-15-11   My uni-protractor had just arrived. although i am not yet in ...   Isochronism

04-16-11   Nice reviews jazz, halcro & genesis. i received mine on thu ...   Downunder

04-16-11   I think daniel added the ruler as a "estimate" too ...   Jazzgene

04-16-11   Downunder, i fell into the same trap as you, and you are com ...   Thuchan

04-16-11   Dear halcro, after further engagement with the uni-protract ...   Thuchan

04-16-11   Thanks jazzgene and downunder, it's interesting to read all ...   Halcro

04-17-11   Dear albert, you may get some comfort in changing headshells ...   Thuchan

04-17-11   Maybe the simplest solution is to print an exact scale meter ...   Thuchan

04-17-11   I was always thinking about how to combine my measurement su ...   Thuchan

04-17-11   Dear thuchan, dear downunder, originally i designed the uni- ...   Dertonarm

04-25-11   Dear dertonarm, do you have a launching schedule in mind? b ...   Thuchan

04-26-11   Dear thuchan, yes i have a schedule. the uni-p2s will now co ...   Dertonarm

04-26-11   Dertonarm, i apologize but i think i may have missed someth ...   Peterayer

04-27-11   Dear peterayer, there is an overhang gauge coming with the u ...   Dertonarm

04-27-11   Peterayer, you may be interested in what i deed. my kuzma st ...   Nandric

04-28-11   Dear dertonearm, i have not been following this thread, but ...   Lewm

04-28-11   Dear lewm, and this is exactly what the uni-protractor does ...   Dertonarm

04-29-11   Finally had time to try dertonarm's vpi template. it is ver ...   Jazzgene

04-29-11   Dear jazzgene, thank you for your impressions. in the 2nd pr ...   Dertonarm

04-29-11   as an aside: halcro, you asked (16th april): i don't k ...   John_gordon

04-30-11   thanks for that explanation john. then the feikert alignment ...   Halcro

04-30-11   Good point here. that's the reason for the micrometer driven ...   Dertonarm

04-30-11   Dear daniel and john, i accept that the majority of tonearms ...   Halcro

04-30-11   I tried the uni-pro on my thorens td-316. i love this simpl ...   Jazzgene

04-30-11   halcro i haven't used it, but i'm sure you are correct in ...   John_gordon

05-01-11   Dear halcro: my mistake. that 15mm on overhang is not what h ...   Rauliruegas

04-30-11   Dear halcro: i don't think you noted yet. several of my heda ...   Rauliruegas

05-01-11   Jazzgene, 'to bad thorens ain't what it used to be'. i agree ...   Nandric

05-01-11   Dertonarm: you said: i would agree with you in that, but ...   John_gordon

05-01-11   Raul, could you please elaborate on this? i don't understan ...   Peterayer

05-01-11: John_gordon

Dertonarm:

you said

If however the user does wish to align the given tonearm exactly to the geometry (especially the offset angle) the tonearm was designed with, then knowing the P2S and setting it precisely (IF possible ...) is important.
Important only if one wants to avoid an additional breakdown torque and thus another source for skating force in a pivot tonearm with a fixed offset cartridge mounting.
With tonarms like the Schroeder, Reed or Talea however we won't run into this problem at all.

Didnīt you suggest starting an antiskate thread?

But since you have brought the subject up, in what way do the Reed, Talea and Schroeder differ from other arms?

The Talea and Schroeder appear to have a facility to alter the effective length,(as does any other arm with a slotted or movable headshell) and they have a facility to alter the headshell angle. What is the difference between this and altering the angle in a normal headshell?

The Reed has a normal slotted headshell except for the model with its little azimuth adjusting device.

Whatīs the difference? I would honestly like to know.

And I am intrigued to know what are these mysterious additional breakdown torques which the above arms donīt have.

Unless you can explain where else it comes from, the only torque acting to rotate the arm inwards is generated by forces acting on the stylus in reaction to downforce and friction. More downforce, more friction; more friction, more inwards torque. No downforce, no friction.; no friction, no torque.

Using more downforce doesnīt make the inwards force disappear, just that the force acting downwards is enough to allow the stylus to track without distorting. The imbalance of forces on inner and outer groove walls hasnīt gone.

John
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John_gordon  (Answers | This Thread)


05-01-11   Dear john_gordon, you don't really want me to tell you what ...   Dertonarm

05-01-11   Dear peterayer: please forgeret about distortions for a mome ...   Rauliruegas

05-01-11   Thanks raul. i think i understand now. unfortunately, it t ...   Peterayer

05-01-11   Dear peterayer: that is only an " exercise " that ...   Rauliruegas

05-02-11   Dear dertonarm. spring rain kept me from chores so i did so ...   Ct0517

05-02-11   dertonarm allow me to return the rattle that you have thro ...   John_gordon

05-02-11   dertonarm again, since you were the one who brought it up, ...   John_gordon

05-02-11   Hi chris, last topic first .... yes, there is also an uni-te ...   Dertonarm

05-02-11   Thx for the quick reply d and clarification on the lack of i ...   Ct0517

05-02-11   Dear chris, my et 2 was mounted first on the big le tallec t ...   Dertonarm

05-03-11   Dear d - that apolyt is quite the platter and those arm pod ...   Ct0517

05-03-11   Dear chris, i found my old files ... last setting with the e ...   Dertonarm

05-03-11   Dear chris, my last post just crossed with your answer - ind ...   Dertonarm

05-17-11   Dear dertonarm, any signs of the uni-p2s having left the la ...   Thuchan

05-18-11   Dear thuchan, the full 2nd production run of the uni-protrac ...   Dertonarm

05-19-11   Dertonarm, any news about the reticule with black markings ...   Jazzgene

05-19-11   Dear dertonarm, wonderful - see you next week. best & fun ...   Thuchan

05-20-11   Hi jazzgene, the "black" reticule proofed much mor ...   Dertonarm

06-07-11   I just aligned my emt 997 tonearm (nos old design) with the ...   Thuchan

06-29-11   Dear tuchan, please excuse my ignorance, but how does one a ...   Bydlo

06-29-11   Just received it, very easy to use and fuss free. another s ...   Glai

06-29-11   Dear bydlo, you may align emt arms with the emt alignment ga ...   Thuchan

06-29-11   Ah, now i've got it thuchan after seeing the pic (but the em ...   Bydlo

06-29-11   Dear bydlo, the cart in the emt shell is a modern emt cartri ...   Thuchan

07-17-11   I've been spending some time with my relatively new uni-pro ...   Wrm57

07-18-11   Wrm57, which uni-iec template did you try? and was the baerw ...   T_bone

07-18-11   Wrm 57, there is this german saying: 'if theory and practice ...   Nandric

07-18-11   My templates are labeled uni-iec and iec baerwald. the forme ...   Wrm57

07-18-11   Wrm57, thanks. not sure what the uni-iec is... i am curious. ...   T_bone

07-18-11   The baerwald alignment using the uni-pro sounded better on t ...   Wrm57

07-20-11   Dear t_bone, dear wrm57, let me add some technical parameter ...   Dertonarm

07-20-11   Dertonarm, will you be offering a stand alone p2s? brad   Ecir38

07-21-11   Dear ecir38, yes - the uni-p2s is a stand-alone-device. it f ...   Dertonarm

08-16-11   Where is the uni tractor available? the listing here has ex ...   Sonofjim

08-16-11   Dear sonofjim, right now the uni-protractor is readily avail ...   Dertonarm

08-17-11   The p2s addition makes the uni-protractor really universal. ...   Thuchan


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