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09-19-11: Thuchan
Dear all,
this is a thread full of helpful ideas how to improve the installation of TTs and the whole system. I needed over ten years to find out that the most limiting factor for good sound is the listening room itself. Usually you cannot change the room's structure and you need to compromise on many topics. This was exactly my situation in 2006.
Then I decided to build my own room. It took me two years studying and doing preparations for the final design, building structure and all the issues for the potential technical and acoustical effects. At this place I do not repeat what I am writing on my page but let me express that besides of the best construction material the right size of the room, having enough space behind and above the speakers and also between the speakers and the listening position is most important.
Either you do it in a monitor setting very close to the speakers as Jonathan suggests or you do it like I did keeping reflections ( also the first reflections ) under control by putting special frequency related treatment material in the additional extra-ceiling and also breaking the waves by the
surrounding wall installations avoiding glass and flat structures at the same moment.
It may sound funny but it is a big challenge to create a room which breathes and still has some atmosphere, so you like to stay there and do not feel entering a bunker or a dead room. In the end we want to relax and enjoy the sound - not the distortions. I have to admit that some theories work pretty well when being implemented but there are lots of thoughts also in this thread applying on "small rooms" which definitely do
not work in my listening room. Not a big issue for me anymore.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to highlight my special situation ( maybe a little too :^) . What could be more important is that if you have a nice system and you do think about an apropriate room you may put some efforts in this rather than rebuilding the system all the time, or shielding everyhing around you. We need to live with airborne and structural waves but you can do a lot of improvements.
best & fun only
Thuchan (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
09-20-11
This thread moves fast, so pardon me for stepping back a few ... Nick_sr
09-20-11
Dear thuchan, some dutch jew was reading the paper and sudde ... Nandric
09-20-11
I agree with nick. the turntable may be the center of the s ... Peterayer
09-20-11
Hi nick – imo - i rate the quality of electricity as impor ... Ct0517
09-20-11
Dear nandric, we may help sam... but then i have to enter f ... Thuchan
09-21-11
Hi henry the exclusive p3 is superb. it certainly has nev ... Downunder
09-21-11
Dear thuchan, explaining a joke is the same as admit that th ... Nandric
09-24-11
Here is an economical way to own a nice armpod. buy the comp ... Halcro
09-24-11
Dear ct0517, there is no argument against your position. ele ... Thuchan
09-24-11
Dear nandric, hopefully marlene and me have different experi ... Thuchan
09-24-11
Dear thucham, you and marlene ditrich have of course differe ... Nandric
09-24-11
Henry, what tt is that? it's impossible to be certain that ... Lewm
09-24-11
Dear halcro, isn't it funny that someone who builds a nice l ... Thuchan
09-24-11
Dear nandric, oh yes, got your point very early. i mean marl ... Thuchan
09-24-11
Lewm: scroll down this page, http://www.onedof.com/pictures ... Banquo363
09-24-11
I see it now. thx. that is one heckuva pod. still would li ... Lewm
09-24-11
Lew, if you go to the onedof site that banquo sent and then ... Halcro
09-24-11
Just look around that website. it has all the answers. yes, ... Banquo363
09-24-11
Just look around that website. it has all the answers. yes, ... Banquo363
09-25-11
The brilliant force behind the marketing of the onedof summe ... In_shore
09-25-11
Dear halcro the onedof makes that the dd wave kinectics see ... Rauliruegas
09-25-11
Aside from the fact that the name onedof is rather funny in ... Dertonarm
09-25-11
For this kind of money i would insist on 4 belts at least. ... Nandric
09-25-11
relative movement between the spindle and armpod Ct0517
09-25-11
Dear dertonarm: imho you don'ty need to made that kind of co ... Rauliruegas
09-25-11
Dear raul, there may be some incosistency between your state ... Nandric
09-25-11
Dear raul, in this case dertonarm is absolutely right. you ... Thuchan
09-25-11
Dear thuchan: i don't think is a " trap of marketing &q ... Rauliruegas
09-25-11
Dear raul, i do respect all technological inventions. havin ... Thuchan
09-25-11
I've asked via email the designer to come onto the thread an ... Banquo363
09-25-11
Dear thuchan: well, maybe not. yes, i understand that the ve ... Rauliruegas
09-25-11
Dertonarm states, audio could very well benefit from the leg ... In_shore
09-26-11
Banquo363, i think your invitation to the designer is a gre ... Dgob
09-26-11
The designer's name is aleks bakman and i asked him a few qu ... Banquo363
09-26-11
This method is very old actually. one first produce the so c ... Nandric
09-26-11
Dear in_shore, my comment was indeed meant rather sarcastic. ... Dertonarm
09-26-11
Dear nandric, today in audio the big buck is no longer made ... Dertonarm
09-26-11
The messenger deserves an extra discount. oh no- not again t ... Thuchan
09-26-11
Does anyone knows someone who actually has bought an onedof ... Dertonarm
09-26-11
Thanks, banquo, for going to the source. i won't understand ... Lewm
09-26-11
Dear lewm, yes, no chrome - but look at that shiny golden fi ... Dertonarm
09-26-11
Is that gold or polished brass? i tended to think it was th ... Lewm
09-26-11
Dear lewm/thuchan: the 150k on this tt is no different from ... Rauliruegas
09-26-11
The interesting parts for me and this thread are his remarks ... Banquo363
09-26-11
Dear banquo363: thank you again, very enlightly. regards an ... Rauliruegas
09-26-11
Dear raul, i have one advantage if you let me put it into th ... Thuchan
09-26-11
Dear raul, all that you say about the current state of high ... Lewm
09-26-11
Even if one hears the onedof at rmaf, how will he/she be abl ... Peterayer
09-27-11
I agree. i would rather hope to find out more about how the ... Lewm
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