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  A Copernican View of the Turntable System
Once again this site rejects my long posting so I need to post it via this link to my 'Systems' page
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Halcro  (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

01-12-11
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09-11-11   Raul makes a reasonable point. whilst it is in our 'audiophi ...   Halcro

09-12-11   Dear halcro: way before we go into the tonearm isolated/stan ...   Rauliruegas

09-12-11   Raul, if you look at the original marketing materials for th ...   T_bone

09-12-11   I meant to say in the previous comment that the p3's constru ...   T_bone

09-12-11   Dear t_bone, go on........try it. you know you want to :^) y ...   Halcro

09-12-11   Halcro, i'll get there. i think the concrete idea is really ...   T_bone

09-12-11   There is no question in my mind that our hobby has some reli ...   Nandric

09-12-11   From nikola's last post i have to admit that having a lawyer ...   Ct0517

09-12-11   Dear t_bone: i understand what " detractors " spea ...   Rauliruegas

09-12-11   Ct0517, a pedestal is nothing more than a 'plinth' :^) the ...   T_bone

09-12-11   Oops. writing on an iphone is a sure-fire way to make lots o ...   T_bone

09-12-11   T_bone - i think you are wasting your time on this. this th ...   Dover

09-12-11   Dear raul: i feel that your posted of 9-11-11 was a direct r ...   Nick_sr

09-13-11: Jcarr
In general, I try to avoid commenting on things that I have no hands-on experience with, or at the very least, have never discussed with another designer who has had hands-on experiences with the topic in question.

This thread is no exception to my policies. I have tried and listened to independent arm-pods on multiple occasions, spanning from the early 1980s to earlier this year.

Any dissent that I may have voiced for independent armpods or other design particulars espoused in this thread, is based on a combination of personal experience (including listening), engineering training, and study and analyses of other turntable manufacturer's design efforts.

Everything that I have learned and experienced about turntable design (particularly regarding DD) suggests that the plinth should have very high moment of inertia but with as few structural or cavity resonances as possible, and as small diaphragmatic area as possible, while the tonearm mount should be non-resonant and completely rigid in relation to the platter so that there is no possibility for relative movement between the LP and tonearm pivot. The reason is that if any relative movement occurs between the LP and tonearm pivot, the cartridge has no way of distinguishing whether the relative motion comes from noise or vibration in the environment, or is part of the LP groove.

This should be accompanied by full isolation from structure-borne noise and vibrations from the environment, and preferably full isolation from air-borne noise and disturbances from the environment.

Some of the posts in this thread very clearly suggest that the poster isn't hearing distortions that should be quite measurable and audible, or that the sound of their system is deemed to be preferable with those distortions present.

cheers, jonathan carr (hugging a pneumatic isolation platform - grin)

BTW, if you place equipment between the speakers, you create an acoustic problem for the speakers, not only a vibration problem for the turntable, CD transport or electronics. IME, if you must place equipment between your speakers, it should present as small of an acoustic profile to the speakers as possible, and should be placed as far away from the speaker's radiating pattern as possible.

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09-13-11   Dear t_bone, for someone who is refering to the 'original ma ...   Nandric

09-13-11   Pedestals, plinths, and pods oh my! lol nandric! you are rig ...   T_bone

09-13-11   t-bone, nikola, pods, plinths, pedestals.......? no, i don ...   John_gordon

09-13-11   Dear jonathan, we all, i believe, value your contributions ...   Halcro

09-13-11   Dear john, you are obviously an atheist. never seen a church ...   Nandric

09-13-11   Dear halcro: regarding what i think is the overall point of ...   Jcarr

09-13-11   Dear halcro, the germans are not considered as having any se ...   Nandric

09-14-11   Dear nicola, a very insightful thought. i also wonder the sa ...   Halcro

09-14-11   agree entirely jonathan. keep it coming :^) regards henry   Halcro

09-14-11   Oh jonathan, i forgot......i took your advice and found an f ...   Halcro

09-14-11   I agree henry. the fr-5 is better than the fr-6 and sounds q ...   T_bone

09-14-11   Hi halcro, i suspect that the statement "i like...&quo ...   Dgob

09-14-11   Dear halcro, i have something with the tonearms. lucky me in ...   Nandric

09-14-11   Hi halcro, before nandric jumps in with his view, i'd just ...   Dgob

09-14-11   I view placing my rack between my speakers a lesser evil. i ...   Nick_sr

09-15-11   Hi nick_sr, i face a similar dilemma and tried both for som ...   Dgob

09-15-11   Hi nick sr, this is the difference between the 'actual world ...   Nandric

09-15-11   Hi nick: 20 feet (from preamp to poweramp?) should be ok fo ...   Jcarr

09-16-11   not sure why you would want to do this? listening through a ...   Halcro

09-16-11   Dgob, re: your comment from 9/14. excellent point. this a ...   Fripp1

09-16-11   Dear halcro, there is no such a thing as identity between tw ...   Nandric

09-16-11   The only thing i am envious of in this hobby is the “room” a ...   Ct0517

09-16-11   Dear halcro: i have a pair of hd800s, and a pair of k1000s. ...   Jcarr

09-16-11   Dear halcro, i gotta love ya, but you wrote, "through m ...   Lewm

09-16-11   Dear halcro: if it is true that each one home audio system l ...   Rauliruegas

09-17-11   Dear nandric, thank you 'brother' :-) however i'm a little p ...   Halcro

09-17-11   Hi fripp1, ah, ferdinand de saussure, barthes, derrida (and ...   Dgob

09-17-11   Hi nandric, i do not believe (as i might have mentioned onc ...   Dgob

09-17-11   Dear halcro, i thought you started this thread and are 'invo ...   Nandric

09-17-11   hi henry i think jasper being polite as he always is, i ...   Downunder

09-17-11   Dear henry, sometimes a thing is "good enough". ...   Lewm

09-17-11   Dear lewm: imho: wrong answer: ++++ " and i am always t ...   Rauliruegas

09-17-11   Dear halcro: +++++ " finally, i can't help but feel tha ...   Rauliruegas

09-17-11   Hi shane, unfortunately, physics and gravity are phenomena w ...   Halcro

09-18-11   Dear raul, i have read not one word that persuades me that ...   Lewm

09-18-11   Hello jcarr, i'm coming into this discussion rather late, bu ...   Fleib


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