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12-18-09
Posts like this are giving me the itch to buy one! mike's p ... Jfrech
12-18-09
Let me throw another log on the fire, so to speak. i do hav ... Mikelavigne
12-18-09
Is it superior to the ortofon m20fl super? (kidding, guys.) ... Lewm
12-18-09
Lewm, you are so right, in fact i would up the stakes to $30 ... Axelwahl
12-18-09
Axel, i do agree with you, but i did not wish to start an ar ... Lewm
12-18-09
Lew, tomorrow i will have a used ortofon jubilee to play wi ... Mikelavigne
12-18-09: Downunder Mike,
I used to own a jubilee and while it did little wrong, more importantly it did little right for me in my system.
It is now being thoroughly enjoyed by an audio buddy with my old VPI HRX that I sold him.
It will be interesting how you feel it performs in your system.
BTW, the A90 sounds equally as good (maybe better) on my Exclusive P3 as it does on the raven AC3.
Funny, I also have another A90 reserved from the next shipment in early Feb, so I have some more time to play with my tables and see if my delight dimms any in that time.
cheers Downunder (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
12-18-09: Downunder Lew / Axel
I guess you are telling me I should take my Ortofon M20FL Super out of its Thakker box and have a listen to it. It is looking ignored and neglected at the moment.
I will do that over the Xmas period and report back. Downunder (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
12-18-09: Downunder JFrench
comparisons - hmmm - always difficult. My dyna XV-1 has been my reference for quite a while now.
In my system the A90 seems to have an uncanny ability to easily differentiate musical and recorded differences more from album to album. This is also the case even from track to track differences more than any other cartridge I have heard. It always does this with control,poise and an eveness without any frequency spotlighting or other obvious downsides. The A90 is sounding more like my system and its voicing than a cartridge - which is what I luv.
That the A90 can sound absolutely wonderful on a current Raven AC3/Phantom combo, but equally well on a 30 year old Exlusive P3 DD table says something.
The dyna in comparison has a signature sound that you hear from album to album. Listening to the dyna in isolation you would not really think that.
I really think Ortofon are onto something special with their unique SLM manufacturing process to make the cartridge body.
Mike is buying another A90 and I am almost at the same decision point, so I guess you know how we feel :-) Downunder (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
12-18-09
Mike, i did not wish to play that game of value for money. i ... Lewm
12-18-09
Having used the jubilee for couple of years before acquiring ... Tobes
12-19-09
The posts above summed it up well. this cartridge's clarity ... Bigamp
12-19-09
Dear downunder: i don't own the a-90 but i already heard it ... Rauliruegas
12-19-09
Raul, i just read your post in the above link.very interesti ... Goldeneraguy
12-19-09
Chris, last night i did install the used ortofon jubilee on ... Mikelavigne
12-19-09
I too recently purchased the ortofon mc a90 cartridge and as ... Audiohifila
12-19-09
Mikel, just re-reading your comments on the sp10/jubilee, s ... Tobes
12-19-09
Mike, thanks for sharing your insights. i think steve used ... Bigamp
12-20-09
Just a note regarding phono loading of the a90. i initially ... Tobes
12-20-09
Tobes, great pic of your a90! what camera/lenses did you us ... Jfrech
12-20-09
Jfrech, the camera was just a panasonic tz7 (zs3 in the us) ... Tobes
12-20-09
This is essentially the classic ten times the internal imped ... Pseydor
12-20-09
Dear tobes: i heard the a90 in my system loaded at 100 ohms ... Rauliruegas
12-20-09
Paul, will you be reviewing the a90 at some stage? i'd like ... Tobes
12-20-09
Raul, it's not just an spl change that i'm hearing (see abov ... Tobes
12-20-09
Dear tobes: only to have clear what you posted: +++++" ... Rauliruegas
12-20-09
You are correct raul, i was not adjusting the volume - but l ... Tobes
12-20-09
" the reed is the real deal....and i can't wait to be a ... Ldvalve
12-21-09
Hi tobes, just let me chip in on these loading findings. the ... Axelwahl
12-21-09
Hi axel, yes it does seem that 'correct' loading is a very s ... Tobes
12-21-09
Tobes & all, i do agree in every respect with what you're sa ... Axelwahl
12-21-09
Axel, a90 vs m20fl super? any comments? Lewm
12-21-09
Hey tobes. i use an ortofon windfeld and have recently purc ... Robm1
12-21-09
Lewm, sorry i have no a90, only the windfeld and the m20fl-s ... Axelwahl
12-21-09
Dear axelwhal: yes a " tracking issue " could be. ... Rauliruegas
12-21-09
Raul, when you say..... ....i think it is very important ... Mikelavigne
12-21-09
Dear mike: yes you are right and agree: " in my persona ... Rauliruegas
12-21-09: Downunder Axel & co
This thread is for anyone who has heard or bought a A90 or anyone who has interest in an A90 - not for MM lovers who have never heard the A90 and try to make this about MM vs MC. You 3 or 4 guys have your own 27 page MM lovers guide thread to discuss that.
Axel, that your ML phono/setup can only sound reasonable at 47k says more about your current setup than anything, as you are definately in the absolute minority favouring 47k. If you read Fremer's review or Robm1 comments, who have actually heard both - the A90 is clearly in a different musical and sonic league compared to the Windfeld for only a little price premium. perhaps Robm1 can elaborate on what differences he has heard - not for your benefit but for anyone interested in an A90.
A90 vs Nagaoka MP 50 - the MP 50 is a great cartridge and is well and truely as you say a giant killer - maybe up to 3k compared to some MC's - It certainly is better in every respect than a Miyabe Shilabe cart at $2800 which I have heard in my system.
In time I will also listen to the ortofon M20FL super and report.
The A90 however is comfortable better than the MP50 in my system.
Why only Ortofon sell limited Edition of 400. Frankly 400 top of the line cartridges are a LOT of cartridges for any top of line model and probably several years or more supply for other cartridge makers. Ortofon are back ordered by 6- 8 weeks, so clearly at the moment demand is outstripping their ability to manufacture and supply.
Quote from Ortofon - "The production capacity for A 90 is limited as the Single Laser Mould is a very special process. The structures for A90 are produced by a Danish research Insitute, Teknologisk Institut Aarhus, their capacity is limited at the machine is one of 3 in all Europe. They use it mostly for research purposes but we are a partner for them in their research for using this process for manufacturing "
Compared to other manufacturers top of the line cartridges Ortofon is actually cheap, so Ortofon should be praised for that alone.
cheers Downunder (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
12-21-09
Raul, to avoid further cluttering this thread with non-a90 ... Mikelavigne
12-21-09
i wonder how high the a90 would have been priced if it was ... Tobes
12-21-09
Downunder, y.s: the a90 is clearly in a different musical a ... Axelwahl
12-22-09
Axel, the differences between the windfeld and mca90 may ind ... Phaser
12-22-09
First off, i will put my two cents in on the a90. i have mad ... Vetterone
12-22-09
Phaser, 1. this is a *new cart* a replacement for a defectiv ... Axelwahl
12-22-09: Downunder Hi Vetterone
Nice to hear from another who has heard the A90 in their own rig. That it competes evenly with its more expensive peers says a lot.
If you were only to compare one MM at Mike's place - make it the MP-50 - selfish reasons for that choice as I am familar with the sound.
BTW - fantastic selection of vintage tables!!
I have been equally impressed with the build quality and performance of my newish 30 year old Exclusive P3 & P10.
cheers and enjoy. Downunder (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
12-22-09
Steve, i'm really looking forward to another visit and fur ... Mikelavigne
12-22-09
Hi, this ortofon a90 is a beautiful cartridge and perhaps th ... Dbcooper
12-24-09
Downunder, phaser, this does not strictly belong here as alr ... Axelwahl
12-24-09
Do you guys think that the 47-ohm load would also be optimal ... Lewm
12-24-09: Downunder Axel, good news that you are getting better performance out of your Winfeld.
Lewm, not sure buy try the lower setting - you can always go back.
I have been using 100 ohms, so I may try my 50ohm setting now on my phono :-)
cheers Downunder (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
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