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why is a 13" tonearm design really superior?

we just mounted the SAEC WE-8000 on my Nakamichi and I can´t really believe what kind of fantastic sound this tonearm is able to reproduce. Is it because this is a very special 13" design or because of the extraordinary headshell design? I think it is the only tonearm with such a long straight alu-pipe. Am i right? Also the lift design is unique, this lift stops at every level you like to use.
Why are todays tonearm developers not anymore going for a 13" or 14" design?

Thuchan (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

07-12-09

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07-12-09 The length of the arm in itself doesn't make it superior. th ... Plato

07-12-09 Tracking error is reduced with increasing length, but rigidi ... Tbg

07-12-09 Tbg, i use many 12" arms and i discovered that well bui ... Thuchan

07-12-09 Tracking error is reduced with increasing length, but rigidi ... Tbg

07-12-09 Dear thuchan: i agree with plato, there are several factors ... Rauliruegas

07-13-09 Dear raul, we all know that there are several factors which ... Thuchan

07-13-09 "why are todays tonearm developers not anymore going fo ... Mordante

07-13-09 The main reason for the extinction of long and super long to ... Dertonarm

07-13-09 Ok that´s a limiting factor of course, understand. today a f ... Thuchan

07-13-09 Thuchan, there is another solution, namely a straight-line t ... Tbg

07-13-09 Tbg, i guess, it is the "thales" arm. made in swit ... Syntax

07-13-09 Yes it is Kha

07-13-09 Yep, i loved the entire table, and it sounded great. too exp ... Tbg

07-14-09 I'll see in detail that thales at the table of an audiophile ... Dertonarm

07-14-09 Here are some pics http://www.euphonia-audioforum.se/forums ... Perrew

07-18-09 Mathematical explanation: the cartridge traces out an arc ... Dfelkai

07-25-09 I promised to report about the 24" tonearm i have seen ... Thuchan

07-25-09: Axelwahl
We next aught to work on a 24'long, what say you?
Like a low resonace pool-cleaner tube?
Will like major minimise the tangent error, no?
Got to have some fantasie else things are not moving foreward here, I say.
Axelwahl (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

07-26-09 At the high-end in munich the italian designer horo presente ... Thuchan

07-27-09 During my e-mail exchanges with bob graham when i recently u ... Flyfish2002

07-27-09 Hahahahahaha, lol. yeah there are trade-offs when the arm le ... Dfelkai

07-28-09 Flyfish - agree with you on your phantom judgement. i did ru ... Thuchan

04-08-11 One thing you all forgot, the 8000 has 1.25* tracking error ... Antslappy

04-09-11 Dear antslappy, that was a common concept of saec with their ... Dertonarm

04-09-11 One designer(who makes 12 inch arms) told me that they didn' ... Myles_b_astor

04-09-11 Hi myles_b_astor. the designer may listen to a we 8000 and h ... Thuchan

04-10-11 Dfelkai, you suggested "baerwald was helped by 12 guys ... Pryso

04-11-11 I believe clearaudio does a 14" variant on one of their ... Moonglum

04-15-11 Hi thucan, hopefully someday will get around to hearing one ... Myles_b_astor

04-15-11 Hi moonglum, yes clearaudio offers a unify in a 14" for ... Thuchan

04-15-11 Clearaudio also offers a 13" arm for their top of the l ... Rockitman

04-16-11 Hi thuchan...some interesting comments about the use of carb ... Moonglum

04-17-11 Hi moonglum, thanks for the article. i do share the impressi ... Thuchan

04-17-11 Hi thuchan and moonglum this is an old article but still i ... Ct0517