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  the perfect tonearm
I know that it doesn't exist, but I'm looking for a tonearm retailing less than $2000 that has multiple virtues- easy to setup even for a clod like myself, flexibility eg, VTA on the fly, azimuth and easy anti-skating adjustments and also with a effective mass that allows it to be used with a wide range of cartridges. Oh, and I prefer the classic looking S shaped arms if possible.

Some that are intriguing are Graham 2.2, Jelco 750, SME 3012???
Mikeyc8  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

07-04-09
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07-05-09   Hi, "the perfect tonearm" and retailing for " ...   Axelwahl

07-05-09   Hi mike,there is,alas, a big gap between what we want and wh ...   Nandric

07-05-09   I second the ma-505 or ma-505s (s stands for silver wire) if ...   Sidssp

07-05-09   The jelco 750 doesn't have vtaf, but it's a great arm. i ow ...   Utahusker

07-05-09   Dear mickeyc8, get a graham 2.2 on the used market and enjoy ...   Dertonarm

07-05-09   If you do get the g2.2, just be aware that it is incompatibl ...   Atmasphere

07-06-09   Dear atmasphere, very interesting. would you please enlighte ...   Dertonarm

07-06-09   To mikeyc8, you may have problems finding what you are looki ...   Jcarr

07-06-09   Fyi - the ikeda it-245 was sold (in limited quantities howev ...   Dertonarm

07-06-09   Jcarr, you wrote, "the triplanar and other tonearms tha ...   Lewm

07-06-09   Jcarr, yes the fr 64fx does sound and look interesting. i h ...   Mikeyc8

07-06-09   Perfection on a budget? hmmm... the alignment jig provided ...   Dougdeacon

07-06-09   Hi lew: what model of triplanar have you used that has such ...   Jcarr

07-06-09   Hi mikeyc8: ikeda's tonearms, like the fr's and it's mostly ...   Jcarr

07-06-09   Dertonarm, the g2.2 and the grado cartridges are well-known ...   Atmasphere

07-06-09   You must give a listen to an rs labs rs a1 tonearm. it has ...   Cerrot

07-06-09   Dear dougdeacon, dear ralph karsten, i appreciate you two be ...   Dertonarm

07-06-09   Well dertonearm, first there is no mk8 of the triplanar... ...   Atmasphere

07-07-09   So - ********* it (the triplanar) can also be set up to more ...   Dertonarm

07-07-09   Dear mikeyc8, nandric was right in his suggestions of the lu ...   Dertonarm

07-07-09   Dertonarm, obfuscations aside, the reason the triplanar is m ...   Atmasphere

07-07-09   Dear mickeyc8: the lustre gst-801 that nandric suggest isa v ...   Rauliruegas

07-07-09   So lots of good choices here it seems.... fr 64fx, lustre gs ...   Mikeyc8

07-07-09   Dear mikeyc8:yes, it makes a good match with the own magnesi ...   Rauliruegas

07-08-09   To my experience all headshell leads by ikeda ( i have them ...   Dertonarm

07-08-09: Nandric
Dear Raul and Dertonarm,thanks mainly to you both our
community is best informed on earth regarding tonearms,turntables and carts.
In some sence it is (much) easyer to have just one authority but I prefer two of more. I will elaborate on this later but I will start with Dertonarms methafor about the old- and the young leon in the same territory.
When asked why he so much dislikes M.Gorky the 'old Leon'
Tolstoj used this 'argument':' My dogs also dislike Gorky'.
The same kind of 'argument-weight' I attribute to the
'commercial intentions' arguments used by both 'Dramatis
personae'. Getting rich by producing tonearm?? You must be
kidding.
So both of our beloved Dramatis personae illustrate two different,say,human 'propertys':
1.The human weakness;
2.The 'homo faber' story (Bergson,Frisch)

Regarding the human weakness Raul is (much) more sensitive
then Dertonarm. He always underlines the individual preferences. In this context I am on the side of Raul because to me the empathy is one of the most important
human quality. Dertonarm SEEMS to 'hate' human weakness
probable because he is follower of the 'absolute theory
of truth' and hates eny compromise.But in Sweden he was not
looking for,say,the richest- but for the most beautiful
lady. So perhaps he is not as 'hard' as he thinks.

2. The 'homo faber'
Because of the division of labor most of us have lost the
skills to make things. I have no idea how to 'produce' even
a stone-knife. So,I ques, the most of us will regard those
two as 'lucky bastards' because thy can combine their hobby
with their work.
So this 'part' is that envy both at most.
Dertonarm mentioned somwehere this 'unity of theory and practice' in.say,'general terms'.
I am familiar with the,say,Marxian one,because I am from
eastern Europa. Thanks to Poppers 'Conjecures and Refutantions' we can use suitable terms to describe the
'experiment' with the 'scientific socialism'. While social
scientist were producing evidence that Marx was right;mainly by quoting from Marx work,some 'regular' person,without eny academic education refuted the theory.
When asked:'And how are we today Sergej?' His answer was:
'Well it is worst then yesterday but better then tomorrow'.

There are also the so called 'American pragmatist'(from
Dewey till Quine) with the similar programme but I am not
familiar with the possible results there.
But I am with Dertonarm for the 'individual cases'.I.e.:
Raul produced 'the' tonearm by the 'unity of theory and
practice' and
Dertonarm (also)produced 'the' tonearm ,etc.

3. The authority

Aristoteles dominated western culture for 2000 years.
The easy 'part' of this fact was:one needed only to read
Aristoteles and nothing else and one was sure about the
'real truth'.I.e. no dillemas then.
So till Galileo in physics and Frege in logic 'we' had just
one authority.
So I have no problem at all with the 'number' in our forum:
I enjoy reading Raul as well as Dertonarm.
Regards,

Nandric  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)


07-08-09   Huh?? now back to our regular programming.   Mikeyc8

07-08-09   Nandric, great ! even if my romantic mood and believe in the ...   Dertonarm

07-08-09   How about the fidelity research arms specifically the fr64f ...   Musicfile

07-08-09   Hi musicfile, i still own the german magazine 'das ohr' from ...   Nandric

07-08-09   My response is based on the op requirements the fx is light ...   Musicfile

07-08-09   Musicfile, yes the fr64fx is definitely on my list. if you ...   Mikeyc8

07-09-09   The first - super detailed and spiced up with many technical ...   Dertonarm

07-09-09   Dear dertonarm.i am 'disturbed' by the statement of musicfil ...   Nandric

07-09-09   Dear nandric, i was associated with das ohr for a short whil ...   Dertonarm

07-09-09   What other headshell are there that are good, the orsonic do ...   Perrew

07-09-09   Dear perrew, 'the orsonic difficult to get'? i see orsonic h ...   Nandric

07-09-09   Dear nandric, thanks for the tip. it looked like the last or ...   Perrew

07-09-09   Dear perrew, there is av-101 b (+/- 10 gr.) and av-101s (16 ...   Nandric

07-09-09   both are identical from weight 101 b=black color 101 s=sil ...   Syntax

07-09-09   As fate would have it, i have an orsonic headshell on my aud ...   Mikeyc8

07-10-09   Dear syntax,you are right:both av -101 are 16 gr.and av-1 is ...   Nandric

07-10-09   Thanks for that info nandric. does anyone have any thoughts ...   Mikeyc8

10-31-10   Used dynavector 597 mkii, is a good choise!   Aviasom

03-10-12   I recently bought a clearaudio innovation compact with a cla ...   Franz456

03-11-12   For this amount of money you can get second hand an 0l conqu ...   Gilles130

03-11-12   Check out the terminator t-3 from trans-fi. fits most turnt ...   Wntrmute2

03-15-12   In the under $2000 class, there is only one non linear tonea ...   Manitunc

03-15-12   Dear franz, unless the bearing of the clarify cf is radicall ...   Lewm

03-18-12   If i were to spend $2000 on a tone arm i would buy the balan ...   Mordante

03-18-12   The opera tonearm sold by grant fidelity has gotten nice rev ...   Roscoeiii

03-18-12   Any tonearm can only be considered "best" is it me ...   Br3098

03-18-12   The new funk f-xr ii.   Vladimir

03-18-12   "the gcph should have enough gain for a mid-output mc, ...   Robob

07-15-12   Regarding orsonic av-101b/s being 16 gr, would that be one o ...   Ihcho

07-16-12   The perfect tonearm is the graham phantom supreme for so man ...   Rockitman

07-16-12   The 'deceptive' part is the is in the sentence form 'x is p' ...   Nandric

07-16-12   Dear ihcho: the saec uxl3, victor l1000 and audio technica l ...   Rauliruegas

07-16-12   You can buy a new sme v now for around 2600 or 2700. why set ...   Mmbma

07-20-12   Atmasphere wrote: i would call the phantom, the logical ev ...   Thom_mackris

07-27-12   thanks. i would eventually need an spu cartridge to work wit ...   Ihcho

07-27-12   And, i would say that ortofon rmg 309 dynamic tonearm is one ...   Ihcho


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