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Dedicated phono-pre for MM only?

Hi All, the subject of phono-pres, specifically 'adapted' to MM came up in some related postings. IF, and only if, MMs are much to ones liking --- why spend your buck on some 'halve backed' 60dB plus, MC gain requirement, stage? Why not consider put the $$$ into a TOP 40dB gain stage of either SS or tube? Raul had more thoughs on the subject as he mentioned before, and might share, why he knows that a TOP MM compared to MC stage circuit requirement might NOT be -one suit fits all-. There could even be a nice argument to fit a tube gain stage only into an otherwise SS only system!? Again, the $buck saved on the 20dB plus circuitry could be translated into the BEST circuit for an MM. I realise, that most such stages were simply fitted inside some older TOP pre-amps, (e.g. Jadis...). I have not come across a **dedicated** , current 40dB stage neither in nor outside a pre-amp. Thank you, Axel Axelwahl  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread) 06-18-09

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Click title to read one, or click date to read all below it. 06-24-09   Raul, do you mean to say that every time you change from an ...   Lewm 06-24-09   i think that i was looking at that one too . . . glad you go ...   Kirkus 06-24-09   Dear lewm: that's right, if i need a different load impedanc ...   Rauliruegas 06-24-09   Raul, just another one of life's compromises. kirkus, woul ...   Lewm 06-24-09   This thread has been informative and i'm better understandin ...   Tketcham 06-25-09   Oops. meant to include a thank you to axel and lewm for answ ...   Tketcham 06-25-09   Hi tom, you say: just seemed like a similar question in tha ...   Axelwahl 06-25-09   In my view, one of the hard to resist features of the 3160 ( ...   Lewm 06-25-09   Hi, lewm, nicely stated explanation. and after reading raul' ...   Tketcham 06-25-09   Tom, ... confused a bit by your comment that the 3160 has a ...   Axelwahl 06-25-09   Dear axel: why in a mc commercial world any phono stage or a ...   Rauliruegas 06-25-09   Hi lewm . . . so for the subject of balanced inputs for pho ...   Kirkus 06-25-09   Hi kirkus very insightful, thank you. i'll have to chew over ...   Axelwahl 06-25-09   Hi, axel, it was this comment that i probably misunderstood: ...   Tketcham 06-25-09   Kirkus, i would like to try to re-state your argument in sho ...   Lewm 06-25-09   Dear axel: +++++ " some renown reviewers / testers havi ...   Rauliruegas 06-25-09   lewm, this is a fair approximation of most of what i was say ...   Kirkus 06-25-09   damn straight. couldn't have said it better myself.   Kirkus 06-26-09   Hi kirkus, this is fascinating for me right at this moment d ...   Halcro 06-26-09   Kirkus, thanks for your patience in preparing a detailed res ...   Lewm 06-26-09   Kirkus, y.s.: i feel that in a high-quality phono preamplif ...   Axelwahl 06-26-09   halcro, please understand that i mean no disrespect to bruce ...   Kirkus 06-26-09   Hi axel,sure it is - just about any datasheet-derived single ...   Kirkus 06-26-09   Axel, you wrote: "as to hum caused by 'unbalanced' mm c ...   Lewm 06-26-09   Lewm, of course you are right! we are talking one channel at ...   Axelwahl 06-26-09   Dear axel: ++++ " balanced = hyper-clean and dynamic vs ...   Rauliruegas 06-26-09   Well raul, my own findings really concur with martin colloms ...   Axelwahl 06-26-09   actually lewm, you got it exactly. now why do you think, d ...   Kirkus 06-26-09   Thanks kirkus, gotta get lucky once in a while in this here ...   Axelwahl 06-26-09   Axel, perhaps one reason you don't have "hum" is t ...   Lewm 06-26-09: Axelwahl Lewm, yes, I think this could be right. It again would explain that even some well noted/quoted phono-stage designer(s) like SE. There was Lamm's Vladimir Shushurin? that stated his clear and decided preference for SE -- but I think he then uses a trannie to change the output to balanced. His main argument also was 'noise' and could well be what you just mentioned. The new PassLabs-X15 seem very well regarded (best ever, etc.) would be most interesting to know what circuit it uses. Axel Axelwahl  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread) 06-27-09   Hi kirkus, during an earlier part of the mm, balanced vs unb ...   Axelwahl 06-27-09   Hi axel . . . well, the first question is understanding as m ...   Kirkus 06-27-09   Hi kirkus, thank you. ??? ...without re-opening the whole s ...   Axelwahl 06-28-09   Kirkus, since i was rather too curious, i did some back-trac ...   Axelwahl 06-28-09   I noticed earlier that someone recommended juicy music. the ...   Utahusker 06-28-09   Hi, raul, i was wondering about the design of the 3160: what ...   Tketcham 06-28-09   Dear tom: yes we use 60 db too in the mc phono stage circuit ...   Rauliruegas 06-28-09   Thank you for the reply, raul. you and the others have been ...   Tketcham 06-28-09   In my list of candidate mm phono stages posted 6/26, i negle ...   Lewm 06-29-09   I have both the reflex and the elevator. i first used the r ...   Rockinrobin 06-29-09   Hi, lewm, it was my first reply to axel that mentioned the r ...   Tketcham 06-29-09   Tom, re.: reflex & elevator... but apparently it's not what ...   Axelwahl 06-29-09   Rockinrobin, i am going to guess that your experience is an ...   Lewm 06-29-09   Hi, axel, it makes sense that newcomers to vinyl would benef ...   Tketcham 06-29-09   Hi, lewm, i didn't offer the jadis as a reference, axel ment ...   Tketcham 06-29-09   Has anyone compared the mm stage in the solid state ear 324 ...   Saudio 06-29-09   Hi saudio ear 324, a good one in the context of mm - alas it ...   Axelwahl 06-29-09   hi axel - i think its really difficult to make these kinds o ...   Kirkus 06-29-09   Hi: i was following the thread the last few days for a diff ...   Pablovila 06-29-09   Hi kirkus, as always, a thoughtful and well laid out respons ...   Axelwahl 06-29-09   oh yes, absolutely agreed! even in a purely technical sense ...   Kirkus 06-29-09   Hi kirkus, ... assume the "perfect storm" where a ...   Axelwahl 06-29-09   Pablovila, your list of candidate mm preamps looks like the ...   Lewm 06-30-09   Thank you very much for the additions lewm. i've already mad ...   Pablovila 07-01-09   Hi, i'm still looking for a clue, given that mm carts like t ...   Axelwahl 07-01-09   What about the audion premier?   Perrew 07-01-09   Audion premier? anyone can tell us something about it at all ...   Axelwahl 07-01-09   I would thoroughly recomend the diy pass pearl phono stage. ...   Drewburn 07-01-09   From my understanding the audion premier is the same as in t ...   Perrew 07-01-09   Audio*n* premier quattro == 4 box pre-amp, ok, i see :-)   Axelwahl 07-01-09   Axel, are you familiar with it?   Perrew 07-01-09   What about the art audio vinyl one mm only version?   Headsnappin 07-02-09   Did not know that existed. i have never seen one advertised ...   Lewm 07-02-09   Hi, it looks like i'm sorted with my set-up now. i'm using ...   Axelwahl 07-02-09   Art audio vinyl one, mm only = $2400, new. it's a little ab ...   Lewm 07-03-09   ... but i bet it's very good. apparently if you like it a l ...   Axelwahl 07-03-09   The review is about the more expensive version, the vinyl re ...   Pablovila 07-03-09   That's a review of the vinyl reference, their more expensive ...   Lewm 07-05-09   I guess this thread is on its last legs, or already dead. i ...   Lewm

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