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  Vpi vs. TW Acustic
My analog rig consists of a VPI Aries I, Triplanar, and Benz LP. My SoCal dealer suggests the Grand Prix Monaco TT should be my next move. However I don't have that kind of moola lying around and just try finding a used one. It ain't happening. So, would the TW Raven One be a big improvement over the the Aries or too much of a sideways move? And without the opportunity to audition, too risky?
Hifigary  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

05-12-09
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05-12-09   Hi, i bought the tw raven ac unheard.it was the wisest move ...   Audiopat

05-12-09   Hifigary, member madfloyd did just do what you are consideri ...   Peterayer

05-12-09   Hifi gary, is you're dealer brooks berdan?   Taters

05-12-09   Taters:...shhhhhhh.....he may find out about my "infide ...   Hifigary

05-12-09   Hifigary, in case you're still interested in a vpi, check o ...   Isanchez

05-12-09   Hifi gary, i have the same table as you minus the triplanar ...   Taters

05-12-09   Taters, no offense but brooks, whom i have known for a long ...   Hifigary

05-13-09   Hifigary, it seems that you're pretty set on the tw raven o ...   Isanchez

05-13-09   Hifi gary, i meant you should try and listen to the tw rave ...   Taters

05-13-09   If you want a small footprint, the one is the one to go for, ...   David12

05-13-09   How about a used sme 10? it too is built to last a lifetime ...   Peterayer

05-13-09   No brick and mortar dealer can sell every line. the honest ...   Narrod

05-13-09   Wendell, i agree. just trying to get much better sound, spee ...   Hifigary

05-13-09   I have had many turntables i now have raven ac1 heard tw rav ...   Ebm

05-13-09   Hifigary, if the vpi classic is as good as the hype it may ...   Narrod

05-13-09   Hifigary, i upgraded from a vpi scoutmaster with 9sig arm t ...   Jdolgin

05-13-09   Hifigary, if after adding the triplanar there is still some ...   Isanchez

05-13-09   Isanchez and others, thanks for your suggestions. i have not ...   Hifigary

05-13-09   Hifigary, good luck with your analog therapy! if you can, ...   Isanchez

05-13-09   Hifigary, the hovland is outstanding. in my opinion you' ...   Narrod

05-16-09   One of the biggest "phoney" rip offs in the high e ...   Sirspeedy

05-17-09   Sirspeedy, before i read your response i ( with my dealer's ...   Hifigary

05-17-09   Sirspeedy, i would have agreed with you years ago, but compa ...   Dgad

05-17-09   i agree with you. unfortunatey it is not the performance, wh ...   Syntax

05-17-09   Sirspeedy, i'm a vpi fan but have you heard the raven? it s ...   Narrod

05-17-09   I have to admit i had expected some nasty responses to my &q ...   Sirspeedy

05-17-09   In deciding if a response is worthy or not, enough has been ...   Dgad

05-17-09   If the response is an insinuation towards my post,i might ad ...   Sirspeedy

05-18-09   Interesting thread. i'm not sure how much of it i find to ag ...   Mosin

05-18-09   Sirspeedy et al, i do see ss's point. there is a lot of unsu ...   Lewm

05-18-09   Sirspeedy, if you find the raven overpriced, then i wonder ...   Dgad

05-18-09   i listened to the raven ac a lot more times (i have one) and ...   Halcro

05-18-09   The fact that a product is "flavour of the month" ...   David12

05-18-09   May i ask, are the raven sold via regular dealers or direct ...   Syntax

05-18-09   Sirspeedy, you have a long way to go to convince me that i m ...   Stiltskin

05-18-09   Sirspeedy has an issue of other sorts. he has sold off his ...   Dgad

05-18-09   The raven one is not overpriced, the ac and blacknight are, ...   Mordante

05-18-09   sirspeedy,bashing is ok, imo. for instance, i just had a w ...   Dlanselm

05-18-09   People can get so passionate about this hobby. there are no ...   Narrod

05-18-09   Dlanselm i like your stance on conrolled opinion, i think th ...   Perrew

05-18-09   I can add that i'm a very happy owner of a raven one. i upg ...   Madfloyd

05-18-09   Ok,i understand how you guys can feel....yet,my experiences ...   Sirspeedy

05-18-09   Perrew, your questions are very relevant, though perhaps be ...   Dlanselm

05-18-09   sirspeedy, thanks for the response. would you be willing ...   Dlanselm

05-18-09   Dlanselm, i agree and will contact you directly regarding th ...   Perrew

05-18-09   Dlanselm,sorry but i've learned my lesson!i'm done on the su ...   Sirspeedy

05-18-09   Madfloyd, could you describe the differences you hear betwee ...   Peterayer

05-18-09   Sirspeedy --i am puzzled by your refusal to mention anything ...   Goldeneraguy

05-18-09   Sirspeedy, yes the oracle delphi is an excellent table but a ...   Stiltskin

05-18-09   Really,this is getting a good bit out of control!why i am as ...   Sirspeedy

05-18-09: Radicalsteve
Since I am an Oracle owner let me chime in here.

Compared to my RX-5000 or Sp-10 Mk2 the Oracle gives nothing away in bass performance as far as I can hear. What I can say is that the Oracle is leaner on the lower registers because it might just be more accurate. Reminds me of Quad 63's in the bass area - fast / accurate / realistic / lacking in quantity not quality. No mid bass emphasis here, just clean low end. Reminds me of why the Linn was so popular in the 80's until everyone realized how colored it really was in the mid bass area.

I put a Grandezza arm on the Oracle with a ZYX UNIverse. Now you have a deck and cart that have the reputation of being lean in the bass department. And it can be so if the cart loading is not optimal, but when everything is set up properly, I am almost embarrassed by both the quality of bass as well as the amount.

Oracle is one of the most accurate and musical deck out there - a great buy and you won't see mine up on "Gon for sale; period - and those that know me can testify to how fickle I am!!!!!!!!!!

Steve

Radicalsteve  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)


05-18-09   I find audiogon threads to be informative and entertaining. ...   Peterayer

05-18-09   I was asked by a poster here to jump in and add my thoughts, ...   Emailists

05-18-09   Thanks, sirspeedy for the information.   Dlanselm

05-18-09   Hifigary - i think the raven one would be a huge improvement ...   Darkstar57

05-18-09   i own both a tw raven ac-3 and vpi hrx tables. both are ...   Downunder

05-19-09   Emailists: could you comment on your additions, the platf ...   David12

05-19-09   Peterayer: here's what i noticed: 1) tonal balance: the v ...   Madfloyd

05-19-09   Hifigary,here is am excerpt from a recent conversation i had ...   Sirspeedy

05-19-09   This has become both informative and entertaining. by madfl ...   Peterayer

05-19-09   Now that i've caught my breath, i guess it was the oracle tu ...   Peterayer

05-19-09   "p" ...if the table could not "do bass", ...   Sirspeedy

05-19-09   Sirspeedy, no offense intended. it was all about your use o ...   Peterayer

05-19-09   If so,sorry for my defensiveness. btw,i did check the tes ...   Sirspeedy

05-19-09   I'm convinced the oracle will do low end well though it just ...   Stiltskin

05-20-09   Since when does a "story" become a "fact" ...   Headsnappin

05-20-09   I just went to see the berlin staatskapelle do mahler #8 at ...   Ebm

05-23-09   Ebm what did your new ac1 replace and which were the other ...   Stiltskin

05-23-09   I'm not sure there is any utility to threads like these. whi ...   Stew3859

06-01-09   Tw acustic/vpi 2 great turntables well made great service bo ...   Ebm


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