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The 'tube-transistor' enigma by MC carts?

By accident I got to know an guy from Swizerland who has
worked for years as technician (R&D,testing,manuf.etc) by
Benz. I made some joke about 'Zelle',the expresion he used
to refer to carts,by asking if the carts are made by
prisoners? ('zelle' is 'the box' in the prison) He appreciated my joke and explaned to me in 2 sentences
something I never thought about. There are 2 kinds of
'bobins': iron and the other kind. The 'classical example'
of 'iron' is the Ortofon SPU. The advantage: stronger signal and some kind of 'pleasing warm sound.the disadvantage:(more)distortion.
The 'ruby-cross' bobin has (much?) less distortion but can
sound 'thin' depending on the rest of 'the chain'.
This is obviously the so-called 'Holistic' approach ;
aka Rauls 'it depends...'. Me? Because I can't cope with
more then 2 variables at the same time I am for 'simplicity' approch. The best 'definition' of this
approch is from O.Wilde:'I have the simplest tastes. I am
alwys satisfid with the best'. So I am still seaching.
Raul will you please bring (more) light to this issue?

Cheers

Nandric (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

02-17-09

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02-17-09 Nandric, i understand that the transfiguration orpheus uses ... Atmasphere

02-17-09 Atmashere. the 'bobin' is the 'thing' one must put the 'coi ... Nandric

02-17-09 If you look at allnicaudio.com in the products section under ... Casey33

02-18-09 Nandric, my understanding is that the bobbin in the orpheus ... Atmasphere

02-18-09 Atmasphere.my conjecture was 'iron bobbin' =the analogy wit ... Nandric

02-18-09 Dear nandric: i can't understand in a precise way what you m ... Rauliruegas

02-19-09 Dear raul.i hate the 'semantical chatter' but the swiss used ... Nandric

02-19-09 Nandric, i suspect the comparison of different cartridge con ... Atmasphere

02-20-09 Dear raul.we are waiting for j.carr but i made some investig ... Nandric

02-20-09 Dear nandric: yes, fortunately there is progress. spu: many ... Rauliruegas

02-24-09: Nandric
Dear Atmaspere. Very strange that the answer to my conjecture should come 'throug' me. The Swiss guy (R)was
acquaintance but became a friend so I 'abused' this to
ask more questions. Before stating the aruments I can say
in advance that we all (Raul includes)are right but for
different reasons.
My conjecture about 'tube-transistor' regarding the 'harmonic distortions' is correct. But the distortions
from 'iron-bobbin' are much less then from tube-amps (caused by outputtransformers). You are right regarding
'your variables' and Raul regarding the 'complexity' aswell
the personal preferences ( an constant ,it seems to me,in
hes arguments).
Your mentioning about our 'hearing' is an enigma to me:
those are phisical events and of course we hear 'the same'. But we must 'interpret' what we are hearing and
then we may have different preferences (see Raul about SPU
from Ortofon). So,for example, Van den Hul is 'tuning' hes
carts to the customers preferences. I.e. one can order by
hem what one like.
The Swiss is,as I mentioned befor, for 'it depends ...
approach. I was wrong to suppose some kind of 'objective
facts' behind our preferences.

Cheers
Nandric (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

02-24-09 Dear nandric, i sincerely hope and expect that the jubilee e ... Lewm

02-25-09 Dear lewn, the ortofon windfeld has a channelbalance better ... Nandric