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  Ortofon SPU Synergy
Hi,

has anyone else here tried the Ortofon SPU Synergy? Whats your impressions, which parameters do you aplly in setting up the sytsem? I use this wonderful cartridge for more than 2 weeks now.

Best regards

Ron
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05-16-08
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05-16-08: Vtvu
Wonderful catridge. I use it in my analog rig: Merrill-Scillia MS2 TT, Ortofon RS-212D arm, custom-built phono stage, Consonance Cyber 300B PSE monos, and Lamhorn speakers. As compared with the Ortofon Jubilee (another great cartridge), the SPU Synergy has more weight & solidity but does not have the air of the Jubilee. But it is a good match for the lighter sound of the Cyber/Lamhorn combo.
Now the Ortofon Windfeld is another league altogether. Absolutely the best cartridge I have used!

Vtvu  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)


05-16-08   How much tracking force do you use? do you use a step up tra ...   Xronx

05-16-08   I was just looking at it...i use spu ge and spu reference go ...   Prcinka

05-16-08   I use the recommended 3gr tracking force. i don't use a step ...   Vtvu

05-17-08   "i was just looking at it...i use spu ge and spu refere ...   Xronx

05-17-08   Hi ron sorry for interfering into this thread instead of sta ...   Agondgd

05-17-08   Sorry, there is a mistake in the description of my "fir ...   Agondgd

05-17-08: Unoear
Hey David,
Take a look at Art Dudley's Listening in this month's Stereophile. He has been rebuilding a Thorens 124 and is using an EMT 12" arm with the Synergy SPU. You may also want to checkout the octaveaudio-usa.com site regarding the Thorens Schopper rebuilds and information on the Ortofon arms and cartridges.

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05-18-08   Thanks ron! i would describe the reference the same way. it ...   Prcinka

05-18-08   Hey david, i have the same plans for the near future...gett ...   Xronx

05-18-08: Agondgd
Hey Ron
I am a begginer in this "concept" and I have so many things to learn and work on...
-The 12' arm: Ortofon dynamic or static(?), EMT, SME 3012...
-The right SPU:From the information I have been able to analyse I feel very close to the Synergy.
-An now...phono preamplification: I was thinking to use my Cello RMC but I am also understanding transformers should be considered.
As you see, I need help in every direction. I live in Spain and retailers here are looking somewhere else so internet is going to be the way.
Regards.David

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05-18-08: Unoear
Hey David,

You know it is really hard to feel sorry for you living in Spain. Give Christine an email over at schopper.ch...they are located a little east of you over the Alps. I have found her to be really informative and helpful. She recommended the Ortofon Synergy SPU, T 100 step-up (BTW, Ron's Auditorium23 Hommage T1 would be stunning...Ken A. is located in Germany), and the AS 309s arm. You also have the advantageous pleasure of not having to pay the frieght in USD! Good luck from Texas.

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05-19-08   Many thanks unoear i agree, even if retailers and distributo ...   Agondgd

05-21-08   Has anyone compared the synergy with a shindo-modified spu?   Randyk

05-22-08   This would be interesting to know for me too.   Xronx

06-01-08: Agondgd
I am progressing in my project. Now is turn to buy the Ortofon SPU cartridge, but I have been analysing the different info coming from articles, forums and brand papers and, apparently, there are specific SPU models for 9" and 12" arms; is this right?. If this is the case, which models are intented for 12" arms?
Regards, dgd

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06-01-08: Xronx
There is the shorter A headshell (especially for arms having the dedicated geometry such as Ortofon 309 or some models from EMT, the A shell is out of production but limited reissued for Japan) and the longer G headshell wich fits (at least from the size) to every regular tone arm 9" to 12".
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06-02-08   If you want to be safe, buy the sme 3012 and you can use man ...   Prcinka

06-03-08: Xronx
The old classic SME 3012 is highly recommended for use with SPU G it is a synergetic combination. I have/had several arms and preferred the 3012 with a SPU G (classic or now Synergy) over all Kuzma arms I had (stogiS, stogi, stogi reference). But it has to be modified (bronze edge bearing, new inner cabling) as well as carefully set up to reach the possible level. also the synergy with my Nouvelle Platine Verdier might be a reason that I like this arm so much. Personally I do not like the adapter for use with A shell. i would stick with a G shell since Ortofon stopped to make the A shell and if you go for a A compatible arm you might have problems to find SPU A in the future.
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06-03-08: Agondgd
Many, many thanks because your level of kindness & knowledge is the only way to compensate the lack of information coming from manufacturers...
The Ortofon arm which is available in this moment is the
AS 309S or the RS 309D ( by the way, any insight about static vs dynamic?)
-Are these models A or G?
-As many SPU models ( at least the ones I am interested in) carry a "G" somewhere in their names, should I understand them to be G?
-Is the SPU Synergy A or G?.
Regards.dgd

Agondgd  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)


06-03-08: Xronx
The actual Ortofon arms are shown mostly with a long "G" shell or a regular headshell attached. if you have a adjustable arm base and therefore can vary the distance between spindle and bearing center it might also be possible to use a shorter "A" shell in these arms. In Japan there is also the older model 309i available wich is made for use with the A shell....but also here it might be possible to use a longer G shell if you have a adjustable arm base.

by the way some people value dynamic balanced arms higher than static ones...but I dont know since I didnt had dynamic balanced armes so far...will test the EMT 997 soon.

the synergy I have is a G shell but in Japan it is also available as limited edition A shell...

if theres a G in the name its the long streamlined G shell...

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06-04-08: Agondgd
Many thanks Ron
I will wait for someone to help me with the Ortofon arms issue.
I have been following your feelings about the Synergy, but as I am building a second and parallel set up I would like to get the closest to the, let's say, "original" SPU sound and I wonder if there is another SPU model better fitting in this approach than the "updated to the times"(maybe I am wrong) Synergy.
Regards.dgd

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06-05-08   You will get the most "origninal" spu sound with t ...   Xronx

06-05-08   There is the spu classic gm e mkii e (nude elliptical) and s ...   Agondgd

06-06-08   The gm mk2 is the close cousin of the regular classic gm...t ...   Prcinka

06-07-08   Yes the spherical stylus is what i meant...its the simpelst ...   Xronx

06-07-08: Agondgd
Many thanks to my SPU pals ;-)
I was told by my retailer he could eventually get a Classic A...
Is A shell better than G shell provided I am going to need the adapter for the G geometry AS 309S Ortofon arm?
dgd

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06-07-08: Prcinka
there is no sonic advantage of the "A" against "G"...in Japan it is a matter of bigger nostalgia(NOS) and in reality it is just the arm choice....if you have the old Ortofon/EMT arms, you either have the "A" or "G" version, so....Against the $$$ of the new AS 309S I would maybe look at the used market...you may get the older arms which are miles ahead of the new in the "classic sound"....my opinion.
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06-08-08   I see one major advantage of the a...it might be easier to a ...   Xronx

06-08-08   Is there any room for alignment if the arm is properly insta ...   Agondgd

06-08-08   If you want to align you have to move the arm...if this is n ...   Xronx

06-09-08   This is what i thought, but as i did not quite understood yo ...   Agondgd

06-10-08   The spu g has a "stream lined" body which makes al ...   Xronx

06-10-08: Agondgd
MT,I now see your point.
I have always had less difficulties trying to find parallelism looking to the arm itself , but my Ortofon arm is going to be "S shape" because at last, thanks to you all,
an AS309S+SPU Classic GM MKII are coming!

Agondgd  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)


12-27-09   Hi agondgd, how did the story go on for you?   Breezer

05-08-11   May i get back to my question regarding spu synergy?   Breezer

02-21-12   Vtvu, did you try windfeld on rs-212d? how was it? i have th ...   Avs9


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