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  Graham Phantom vs Triplaner
Wondering about the sonic traits of both these arms compared to each other.

- which one has deeper bass,
- which one has the warmer (relative) balance
- which one is compatible with more cartridges
- which one has the better more organic midrange
- which one has the greater treble detail.
- which one plays music better ( yes this is a more subjective question ).
- which one goes better with say the TW acoustic raven TT.
Downunder  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

01-18-08
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01-18-08   A long time ago i compared - at home - three arms wih an ort ...   Impulseh2

01-18-08   Can't help but hope you get an answer. i'm getting a raven ...   Bhoage

01-18-08   It depends on your phonostage, the connected cable and the c ...   Thomasheisig

01-18-08   Downunder,i know you are an experienced 'phile,so i am going ...   Sirspeedy

01-18-08   gents to clarify, all i am asking is one's personal vie ...   Downunder

01-18-08   Downunder,my response is not to dissuade you from any inquir ...   Sirspeedy

01-18-08   Btw,downunder...as a good amount of my friends own the vpi t ...   Sirspeedy

01-19-08   hi sirspeedy. watching the aust open at the moment - pit ...   Downunder

01-19-08   Ok i'll bite!....i do love the phantom,with the experience o ...   Sirspeedy

01-19-08   Hey downunder,forgot to mention i have a close friend with t ...   Sirspeedy

01-21-08   Hey downunder......i can't believe that being in australia, ...   Halcro

01-23-08   heh halcro do you live in sydney. i would luv to hear t ...   Downunder

01-23-08   Downunder, i had both tonearms on the teres 340 which accom ...   Kdtran

01-23-08   From kdtran's post it sounds like the triplanar retrieves al ...   Dan_ed

01-23-08   thanks kdtran based on your listening experience i woul ...   Downunder

01-23-08   I live in sydney in the eastern suburbs. copperhead has vta ...   Halcro

01-23-08   I totally disagree with kdtran's description of the tri-plan ...   Rfogel8

01-24-08   I have to agree with rfogel. the tri-planar has great leadin ...   Vetterone

01-24-08   Ask 5 audiophiles and you'll get 6 opinions :) each of them ...   Thomasheisig

01-24-08   thomas, considering you have both arms i would appreciate ...   Downunder

01-24-08   I have seen but not personally tested these arm and their pi ...   Stringreen

01-24-08   The triplanar vii is a excellent unit with its good cable an ...   Thomasheisig

01-24-08   take that damn dampening trough off of your triplanar and t ...   Dan_ed

01-24-08   Fwiw, i've never heard the phantom, but i can assure you tha ...   Swampwalker

01-24-08   I've been running the tri-planar for a few years now. the vt ...   Atmasphere

01-24-08   Thomas has it pretty much nailed down,as far as i am concern ...   Sirspeedy

01-24-08   Let me say again that my impression of these tonearms is bas ...   Kdtran

01-25-08   Sirspeedy, having heard a variety of linear tracking arms in ...   Atmasphere

01-25-08   I have to second sirspeedy's discourse on the fallibility of ...   Gmorris

01-25-08   Btw,as a humorous afterthought...the maxi pump(what i called ...   Sirspeedy

01-25-08   Atmosphere,yes i cannot disagree with you,but the vast amoun ...   Sirspeedy

01-25-08   Sorry that the last two posts got switched around! i may as ...   Sirspeedy

01-26-08   Dear downunder: imho you can't compare the quality performan ...   Rauliruegas

01-26-08   Dear downunder: imho you can't compare the quality performan ...   Rauliruegas

01-26-08   As a reviewer and publisher, i get to try a lot of things. i ...   Jimaxp

01-26-08   It is normal, that one or the other has some favorites and l ...   Thomasheisig

01-26-08   the triplanar, i think, is also surpassed by the basis vecto ...   Audiofeil

01-26-08   raul you are starting to add a complexity to my questio ...   Downunder

01-26-08   Audiofeil, in your experience do you sell many vector's to n ...   Pcosta

01-26-08   I know thats not my question, but i know of only one person ...   Fjn04

01-26-08: Jtimothya
IMHO you can't compare the quality performance of two tonearms " per se " ( any ) because a tonearm is a " incomplete " product/item ...

I agree with Raul on this point, which "per se" can be extended to any component. You can't listen to an arm alone. You can maintain a stable system context and swap out a single component and compare those swaps, but there will always be other components within the system that *could* vary.

I agree, an analog front-end is a product of its pieces: turntable, turntable drive mechanism, cartridge, fastening hardware, headshell, tonearm, armboard, tonearm wires, phono stage, phono stage impedance resistors, tubes, etc. etc. If I'm off a half newton-meter of headshell bolt torque, from you, well ...

Not to mention the vagaries of semantic nuance even when we use the same vocabulary. "Tonearm X has superior top-end extension, asymptotically spinning heavenward with receding gossamer grace." (hmm... not bad, maybe i'll use that line.)

And then, we each have a different room. Not to mention humidity. Heh.

What does tonearm X sound like compared to tonearm Y? As the master says: "hard to predict all the variables are".

Yes, its a system. And yours will never be identical to mine. But lets never stop talking about it, the collective community of opinion is a joy.

And then, after all the headshell swapping, damping trough removing, and the four prelude passes ... after all the needle mr. cleaning, after the vta adjusting and antiskate donut twiddling, finally ... finally .... a record is played! Hooray!

Gawd, I love this hobby. Thanks to each of you for helping me enjoy it even more. honest! :-)

Tim

Jtimothya  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)


01-27-08   tim yes i agree, hifi is a great hobby and it is enjo ...   Downunder

01-27-08   I use a vector on my galibier from time to time. is it bette ...   Dan_ed

01-27-08   Dan_ed's remarks about the triplanar are spot on. it is an e ...   Audiofeil

01-27-08   I agree with raul that there are lots of other variables whe ...   Kdtran

01-27-08   Ok, here is my 2 cents on this issue. i have a tw raven acus ...   Elinor

01-27-08   hey shane - yes i still plan to replace the sme v. i almos ...   Jtimothya

01-27-08   Dear downunder: +++++" the vpi solution of replacable a ...   Rauliruegas

01-27-08   Back on topic(for me),and hopefully with some "opinions ...   Sirspeedy

01-27-08   i have had cartridge/headshell weight type combinations of ...   Dre_j


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