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  Building high-end 'tables cheap at Home Despot II
“For those who want the moon but can't afford it or those who can afford it but like to have fun and work with their hands, I'm willing to give out a recipe for a true high-end 'table which is easy to do, and fun to make as sky's the limit on design/creativity! The cost of materials, including 'table, is roughly $200 (depending, more or less), and add to that a Rega tonearm. The results are astonishing. I'll even tell/show you how to make chipboard look like marble and fool and impress all your friends. If there's interest I'll get on with this project, if not, I'll just continue making them in my basement. The next one I make will have a Corian top and have a zebra stripe pattern! Fun! Any takers?”

The Lead in “Da Thread” as posted by Johnnantais - 2-01-04

Let the saga continue. Sail on, oh ships of Lenco!
Mario_b  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

08-31-06
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08-13-07   The production quality of mosin's table defies and challenge ...   Gadfly

08-13-07   I agree that mosin's work is cosmetically the best i've seen ...   Lewm

08-13-07   Lewm, it's quite possible we may be left with a "who w ...   Mario_b

08-13-07   wise and prudent choice, mario.   4yanx

08-14-07   Thanks for the post, mario. mosin actually clears up a lot ...   Lewm

08-23-07   Hello all. not posted here for a while, but feel the need af ...   Gilbodavid

08-23-07   Thanks gilbodavid. my sentiments entirely. jean has enhanced ...   Oregon

08-24-07   Gd, that pesky nail-head that was tripping folks up, has bee ...   Bornin50

08-27-07   Well - my last post did what i hoped it would - kinda. it st ...   Mgreene

09-18-07   Greetings from the greek island of rhodos all, a medieval fo ...   Johnnantais

09-18-07   Good for you jean, the six moons thing was exciting, but tho ...   Etch

09-18-07   But why can't johnnantais just send a lenco to the 6moons gu ...   Gadfly

09-21-07: Johnnantais
Always have to bring it back to the same old muck, issues of "credit," the same stuff which has poisoned what should have been an entirely pleasurable - if sometimes stormy (on issues of engineering, measurements, results/experiments, etc.) - venture. Customs on imported things is an entirely different issue from crossing borders with a passport: I have never, until the Home Despot thing started, dealt with exporting and importing, beyond using the post office (and yes, even here things were sometimes delayed by months). If you use your head instead of your venom-sacks, you might see that many are in the export-import business for decades without ever leaving their home town (including Customs officials who never see more than stamps and places of origin), while travellers like me do not deal with Customs ever, beyond waiting for a shipped package and paying duties. The HUGE summer back-up overextended my own resources and time as well as the magazine's schedule, end of story. BTW, I never invented anything either, nor claimed to (which you would know if you weren't simply another purveyor of ugly hearsay with no interest in examining the public record and discovering the truth), just recognized and understood certain things, tinkered with and in some cases improved what had already been tried, and did what I could to promote it: i.e. start the "Building high-end 'tables cheap at Home Despot" thread, do my bit to encourage people to participate by example and logical argument, and participate in various vinyl forums. It's the thread's success - NOT failures - which attracted the flies, or in this more particular case "gadflies", an apter description I cannot find. Now can we PLEASE get back to the issues: drive systems, idler-wheel drives, and Lencos?!?

This thread and the original - along with activites across many audio forums - is the collection of the independent testimony of people - the owners of the 'tables outperformed by the Lenco and other large idlers - and this is more than good enough, in fact, it's a phenomenon involving people from around the world, and which continues. I've personally learned my lesson and will not be seeking official channels again, my luck just doesn't run that way, and this is how I make my decisions (learned by months-long sometimes years-long travels with no plans, I know when a path is not my own). Lencos and other idlers will continue to be compared and auditioned - in greater and greater numbers - around the world, and how these eventually reach the audio press (and they already have in a few articles) is only a spectator sport for me from now on as far as I'm concerned (far too many non-performance related issues for my tastes, which is precisely why audio forums are so popular; better acidental discoveries - as in the positive-feedback TNT vs Garrard article - than planned reviews).

To the rest, getting back to original issues and the fun of discovery, the Lencos and other idlers - mine and others world-wide - will continue to be compared and reported on, on this forum as well as others. As with the crows, the constant addition of what is initially dismissed as/termed "anecdotal evidence" will, by its very weight and numbers, become simply "evidence". So don't stop building, don't stop comparing and experimenting, don't stop trying it out and tracking down those old machines, and best of all, don't stop reporting and sharing! To those who haven't tried, you have no idea of just how much MUSICAL information (as well as ENORMOUS amounts of detail) is waiting in those vinyl grooves waiting to be released, and you truly are missing a grand experience. Good luck all and have FUN, and share with generosity of time AND spirit, in a positive spirit of helpfulness. See ya all when I get back to Canada and have time to recover from all these adventures (for instance, it was HELL to get out of Israel, as both the Jewish New Year's AND Muslim Ramadan started the same day I arrived in Israel). And to be more specific re. the EMT/Rek-o-Kut comparison: the EMT had the same character/sound as the Rek-o-Kut Rondine I heard via the same speakers (I'm NOT saying equalivalent in audiophile terms), and I am truly dying to see how far the Rondine can go when Direct Coupled. Vive la Lenco, Vive la Idler Wheel!

Johnnantais  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


09-21-07   To the unbelievers! the lenco is indeed a fantabulous machi ...   Oregon

09-21-07   I believe. i got an idler. i'd get a lenco if they were layi ...   Gadfly

09-22-07   Well, i guess we will not see an outside non-vested party re ...   Gadfly

09-22-07   Dear gadfly, tell me more about your td-111 and less about y ...   Lewm

09-22-07   Personal obsession with jean? i didn't think they'd post tha ...   Gadfly

09-22-07   And helpful contributions to the thread, dipwad. i know i'll ...   Musicus53

09-23-07   Full comment - dear gadfly, thank you for your insightful an ...   Musicus53

09-23-07   "da thread ii" year end statistics: 520 posts 76,2 ...   Mario_b

09-24-07   Mario, thanks for posting your project photos. the peter pl ...   Oregon

09-24-07   It is beautiful indeed. looking forward to see it after comp ...   Mrjstark

09-24-07   Dear musicus53, my thread was helpful in exposing the myth ...   Gadfly

09-24-07   Oregon is that you ??? m.....l ?   Mrjstark

09-24-07   Ok gadfly, do as your handle implies and buzz off to snipe s ...   Mario_b

09-24-07   Gadfly - wow, you are a bit of a strange fellow. it's reass ...   Musicus53

09-24-07   Mario, when you say that your plinth "captures" th ...   Lewm

09-24-07   I have seen the work of the johnnantais and all i can say is ...   Gadfly

09-24-07   If postings to this site are truly reviewed prior to being m ...   Lewm

09-25-07   For those interested in mario's beautiful interstate lenco i ...   Reinderspeter

09-25-07   Socrates kept asking questions that were embarrassing to the ...   Gadfly

09-25-07   Hi lewm, actually, someone on the original “home despot” th ...   Mario_b

09-25-07   Mario, thanks for the link. you are a life saver. keep it up ...   Mrjstark

09-26-07   Postings are indeed reviewed, which became apparent when the ...   Gp49

09-26-07   Coupling the bearing seems like a great idea. but somehow o ...   Lewm

09-26-07   Hi lewn, there's nothing "locking" about the bear ...   Mario_b

10-06-07   Hello from the country all, i've been overcoming culture sho ...   Johnnantais

10-17-07   Hello again fellow idler-wheelers: i'm here to report the la ...   Johnnantais

10-18-07   Hey jean, i have actually done some work on my giant lenco # ...   Mgreene

10-18-07   Hi, jean could you clarify vintage sony amps for me? i have ...   Wolf_moses

10-18-07   Hi mike, guilty as charged :-)!! i myself still have all th ...   Johnnantais

10-18-07   With all due respect, jean, the sony es stuff of recent year ...   Lewm

10-19-07   Lew, it seems what you wait for is not far in the future. a ...   Oregon

10-19-07   Teres is not quite there yet. they make a true direct-drive, ...   Lewm

10-20-07   Actually, there are two new megabuck idler-wheel drives, bui ...   Johnnantais

10-20-07   Teres is also going to be offering a replacement motor/idler ...   Old_6eyes

10-20-07   Jean, now that i think of it, i do recall a good feeling abo ...   Lewm

10-20-07   Oregon, a small correction. we are no longer producing any b ...   Teres

10-21-07   Chris can you give us more info on the replacement motor fo ...   Jdubs


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