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  Analog vs. CDP: A fair comparison?
Ok, in summary, I'm planning on selling my Cary 303/300 and taking the funds and buying a TT rig including Table, Arm & Cartridge. I'll worry about the phono stage, record cleaning machine, etc. later.

Assuming I get $2,500 from the CDP, will I be able to get a used rig that will at least match the sound quality? Assume also that I will have a phono stage budget of $1,000.

Rest of the system if Cary 300SEI.

Is this a fair comparison? Or, will the sound just be different (i.e. tubes vs ss).

thanx much
Pawlowski6132  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

07-13-06
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07-13-06   Personally i think you should not look at this in a piecemea ...   Kurt_tank

07-13-06   For an informed (if opinionated) view of your situation, try ...   Musicslug

07-13-06   The largest cost for either format is not in equipment, but ...   Onhwy61

07-13-06   I agree with the others when they wonder if you already own ...   Tarsando

07-13-06   A record doctor cleaning kit, a decca brush and a zerostat s ...   Jalanc42069

07-13-06   I disagree on the software concerns--vinyl is very abundant ...   Dirtyragamuffin

07-13-06   I am not sure if you are aware that you cannot play vinyl di ...   Sidssp

07-13-06   Agree one thousand percent with onhwy61. pawlowski, are you ...   Zaikesman

07-13-06   Yeah, i can't imagine being without both cdp and vinyl. ther ...   Dan_ed

07-14-06   No! period end of story! i was extremely hesistant to go ana ...   Mechans

07-14-06   Are you getting rid of your cdp because you think--and heard ...   Justubes

07-14-06   First of all, thank you everybody for all your thoughtful re ...   Pawlowski6132

07-14-06   Oh, and justubes, yes, i've heard lots of people say that, i ...   Pawlowski6132

07-15-06   Pawlowski612, thanks for providing more info on where you'r ...   Dougdeacon

07-15-06   I got back into analog a few months ago on a lark after buyi ...   Maineiac

07-15-06   You sound like a collector rather than a user. imho go for i ...   Shadorne

07-15-06   Thanks pawlowski for answering my question. i admit i can't ...   Zaikesman

07-15-06   Thanx zaikesman for what i think sounds like a left-handed w ...   Pawlowski6132

07-15-06   Back-handed. i have nothing against my left-handed brothers ...   Zaikesman

07-17-06   Don't get rid of the cdp. go the 500-1000 dollar complete t ...   Johnnyb1

07-17-06   Hi paw - the 303/300 is a very good cdp, particularly if you ...   Jwpstayman

07-17-06   It all depends on what is important to you. if absence of su ...   Eldartford

07-17-06   Eldee: i take it you mean "never been to nirvana". ...   Zaikesman

07-17-06   Zaikesman...i used to think my lp equipment was ok until i g ...   Eldartford

07-18-06   E: i think choice of program material also has something to ...   Zaikesman

07-18-06   Zaikesman...you are correct in that program material which i ...   Eldartford

07-20-06   Dear pawlowski6132 : i think that kurt_tank put everything i ...   Rauliruegas

07-21-06   Run both worlds.... you gotta keep a cdp no doubt, sometimes ...   Undertow

07-21-06   If you're into the sensual part of the hobby, then there's n ...   Ptmconsulting

07-21-06   Will i think an input from the digital camp is in order. ar ...   Artizen65

07-25-06   I have been reading this tread with great interest. i too a ...   Billt1

07-25-06   Billt1, in one sense there is no reason to "worry" ...   Dougdeacon

07-25-06   Don't do it bill! don't listen to the siren's song! contact ...   Dan_ed

07-25-06   I agree with doug in that the worry should be minimal. if a ...   Maineiac

07-25-06   This thread has kind of turned into the first and only threa ...   Dicobrazil

07-26-06   Excellent advice from maineiac re: buying used. audiogon and ...   Dougdeacon

07-26-06   Great advice from all, thank you. i do buy allot of used gea ...   Billt1

07-26-06   Whatever else you do - bribe doug to set your table up   Ndoshi

07-26-06   Billt1, why didn't you just buy a used cary amp and new (nos ...   Pawlowski6132

07-26-06   “billt1, why didn't you just buy a used cary amp and new (n ...   Billt1

07-26-06   The one aspect that i discovered about vinyl which was total ...   Maineiac

07-31-06: Zanth
I was in this boat a year or so ago, though I was not interested in selling my digital gear, but simply diving into vinyl with a handful of LP's (5 I think, maybe 12). I contacted a good friend of mine who was interested in helping me out. He set me up with a really nice Thorens TD166 that he had rebuilt (parts from a 160 and 166 merged) an Alphason arm and Grado Prestige Silver cart. He lent me his Clearaudio Basic and then he gave me the little Rat until I had the money to buy a decent phono. All in all I had the setup for 3 weeks and I was hooked. I loved the sound and I enjoyed the mild tweaking.

That said, I knew for myself, that doing the gradual upgrades would kill me in the end and so when the opportunity arose a month later to get a full on setup (my current one listed under my profile) I was locked in. In just over a year my LP collection has gone from a dozen LP's to between 500-600 LP's. How? Donations from friends, yard sales and folks gutting their collections on the cheap. Craig's List is your friend among other local used sites. I've spent maybe 400 on LP's, the vast majority of my music being in the .25-1.00/LP then the other new LP's ranging from $20-$30. The stuff I REALLY want on vinyl I buy on vinyl and take the hit, otherwise I stick with the RBCD.

I would say my listening is split evenly between CD and LP. My CD collection is a bit over 1k albums and I have not slowed on my purchases, having bought perhaps 50 albums this past year. I like the flexibilty of having both options when purchasing new. That said, you have a computer, if you don't want to get rid of your CD's but want to dive headfirst into vinyl, you can play your discs on your comp and get a decent DAC/amp combo for your headphones. This way you don't lose your ability to stay with your digital media but you now have some sweet cash to plunk down on vinyl. However, given what most have stated, don't just chuck your digital stuff in favour of vinyl "site unheard." Make sure you have a backup plan, the option of using your comp for listening via an outboard DAC, buy a cheaper vinyl kit (something in the $1k zone, table/arm/cart) get a decent phono (P75 used for $350-400) and you still have more than half you cash for that DAC and cleaning supplies for your vinyl.

In the end, the vinyl exists, and it is still available on the cheap, it just takes some time to find it. Once you do though, the wonders of new old music is at your finger tips and usually at prices CD's can't match just yet. But for new music, keeping CD's in the mix is a must as most is never issued on vinyl.

GL!

Zanth  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


07-31-06   Hey zanth, thanx. that's a pretty encouraging thread! and, i ...   Pawlowski6132

07-31-06   very well put, i'd say. that's my viewpoint, although i st ...   Psychicanimal

08-01-06   Maineiac: after that last post, i will now regard everything ...   Zaikesman

08-01-06   Hey, it could happen. my cats lick the records clean for me. ...   Dougdeacon

08-01-06   Maineiac must live in stepford   Jaybo

08-15-06   Ok. sold the cdp. the clearaudio champ ii is on the way! nex ...   Pawlowski6132


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