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12-30-05: Dan_ed
I am completely sympathetic! I, too, am looking into my next table and have considered all three of these in addition to Avid and Acoustic Signature. It is most likely that all of these tables are capable of great performance. I have owned a very good suspended table in the past but I have come to realize that these are not the best at dynamics and "the startle factor". (I borrowed that phrase because I think it really sums up what my preference is for vinyl playback.) If the listener tends to like warmer,perhaps a bit smooth playback then I would think a suspended table would be in order. So, like you, I'm going down the nonsuspended, high mass road.
I also give the nod to the 3 tables you mentioned because I think they are the best value around when you compare all of the features included in the price. But my personal preference is for the arm and bearing to be tightly coupled. So that ruled out the Redpoint for me. Another preference I have is for mounting multiple arms and here again I think these tables get the nod because the armboards can easily be manufactured and the pivoting feature makes for setup ease.
So I'm down to Galibier and Teres. Here is where the dilemma really begins to kick in and like you said it is virtually impossible to hear both table in my system in my room. Again I'm left to comparisons based on research and not listening sessions. Both of these tables imploy a simpler is better approach if we skip the motor controllers for now. The biggest difference is in the materials chosen. I'm also an amateur woodworker so I really appreciate the look and craftsmanship of the Teres tables. I have no issue with movement of the wood because I'm satisfied that the process that Chris uses in making the Teres tables is sufficient to keep any movement to a minimum. I'm also put at ease by the great effort that Chris goes to to stand behind what he makes.
As I said before, my preferences in sonics tend to the dynamic and what many would refer to as bright. I reject this because bright is exactly how I would characterize all live music I have ever heard. Anyway, that leads me to think that Thom's approach using all metal may yield sonics closer to what I would prefer. But I also admit that this is at best a guess on my part.
Now, just a brief comment on the motor controller that is used by Teres and some others. I'm an engineer, EE and CS, and I do have some concerns with a feedback loop controller. It does seem that the one in question is very well implemented, but again my preference is for simple is best.
So here we are Richard. Both on a similar quest and both facing the same obstacles.
Dan_ed (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
12-30-05
Dan ed- do you know why redpoint does not couple the arm and ... Richardmr
12-30-05
Hi; i am in the same boat as well. i have heard all of these ... Santanaali
12-30-05
You really should also consider the verdier platine at this ... Bigbucks5
12-30-05
Guys sorry to be no help, but i have questions for both of y ... Meby
12-30-05
Meby - as far as my avid is concerned, i really have nothing ... Richardmr
12-30-05
This is a great thread! i recently heard the galibier turnt ... Albertporter
12-30-05
Yes, please take my comments and observations as nothing mor ... Dan_ed
12-30-05
Hi albert, yes, i think all three use the maxon dc motor. ... Dan_ed
12-30-05
Guys - this is great! all three tables use a dc motor. whi ... Richardmr
12-30-05
I have an earlier version of the redpoint testa rosa which i ... Dmailer
12-30-05
Dmailer, what arm and cartridge are you using on the gali ... Meby
12-31-05
Dear richard, i am a fan of smaller companies as well and i ... Peepoy2
12-31-05
I am using a schroeder reference with a zyx universe cartrdi ... Dmailer
12-31-05
Btw, regarding the moveable armpod, i cannot really say if a ... Dmailer
12-31-05
Dear richard: good that you already decided to buy a new tt. ... Rauliruegas
12-31-05
Dmailer, thanks for clearing up the armpod alignment. the i ... Dan_ed
12-31-05
I think raul should buy one of each and set up a salon! then ... Dougdeacon
12-31-05
Yes, i am using the anvil which seems to work very well. i ... Dmailer
12-31-05
Very good example, dougdeacon. i have experienced this with ... Dan_ed
01-01-06
i've never tried a weight either, for exactly this reason. ... Dougdeacon
01-01-06
I don't think you ought to write off your avid table just ye ... Greenman
01-11-06
Now that ces is over, i would like to keep the above questio ... Richardmr
01-11-06
Yes, i was hoping that someone who went could offer a review ... Dan_ed
01-11-06
Teres has never shown at ces before. don't know about galibi ... Dougdeacon
01-11-06
Here's another possible source for your platter ring, that w ... Colitas
01-11-06
Hi dougdeacon, thom had mentioned something about ces so i ... Dan_ed
01-11-06
Another small upgrade to the teres tables is that the motor ... Am_dial
01-11-06
Redpoint at ces doug - do you have a source for the 2mil ... Jtimothya
01-11-06
Doug, the new belt was just part of our on-going work quest ... Teres
01-11-06
Doug - thanks for the info on the belt. it's amazing that i ... Richardmr
01-12-06
Chris, thanks for the reality check. i quite agree with you ... Dougdeacon
01-18-06
Hello all, i've been down for the count with a post-ces flu ... Thom_mackris
02-04-06
Thanks for the informative posts, thom and chris. i've spen ... Dan_ed
02-04-06
Dan_ed, tension with a mylar belt is certainly touchier tha ... Dougdeacon
02-05-06
Dan ed - no, i have not made a decision yet and i'm probably ... Richardmr
02-05-06
Thank's dougdeacon. i will probably build a stand for which ... Dan_ed
02-05-06
Hi richardmr, i know all to well how that side of the bed th ... Dan_ed
02-05-06
Dan_ed, we haven't received the new bearing yet, so my tabl ... Dougdeacon
02-05-06
I thought i'd jump in and say thanks to everyone here on the ... Indigorose
02-05-06
I used a technics sp-25 as a motor to drive a vpi tnt jr. pl ... Nghiep
02-05-06
The motor pod on my redpoint/galbier does not move during no ... Dmailer
02-05-06
Colin, we captured another one. great! which model teres a ... Dougdeacon
02-05-06
Congratulations, colin! i'm very gealous right now! :) dma ... Dan_ed
02-06-06
My motor pod does not have footers. i believe there are thr ... Dmailer
02-08-06
I ended up ordering a teres 350 with a schroeder reference a ... Indigorose
02-09-06
Hi all, a couple of quick comments ... firstly (to dan-ed) ... Thom_mackris
02-10-06
fwiw, i once tried adding a thin (.5mm) layer of a self-adhe ... Dougdeacon
02-17-06
Colin, good for you!!! i am now starting to get the itch t ... Rwd
02-19-06
I am curious concerning this question of prat and mass-loade ... Dan_ed
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